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#802226 - 21st Jun 2013 10:01pm Computers for under 25 for those on benefits lies
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I have looked into this for my brother who is on job seekers allowance of 66 per week and thought I could get it for him to improve his job chances instead of him going library etc, especially as the broadband is only 3 a month.

Well what total lies, not at any point in the media has it stated that to get the computer for 24 and the broadband for 3 that they have to choose a specific provider and have to pay for a line rental as well as paying the amount upfront which is in fact over 220. Yet people are saying on the daily mail website about how people on benefits get everything and its a waste of government money. I was totally disgusted if I'm honest they have not told the truth at all, there is no option to get just mobile broadband ie: dongles on mobile networks etc....
How on earth do they expect people who are paying bills etc on 66 to miraculously find over 200 to get them online.

I really was disappointed but I don't think I expect any thing other than that from this government.

Sorry rant over

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#802261 - 22nd Jun 2013 1:45am Re: Computers for under 25 for those on benefits lies [Re: bumblebee]
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Daily Mail readers are the duck heads in society. They believe everything they read, fed drip drip lies and Tory propoganda. Sun readers the same. Duckheads.

The Sun on Sunday last week- front page-fecking Helen Flanagan has had a nose job!! Never mind that Turkey are two weeks into protests, one million people have took to the streets in Mexico. That 2m? has been spent on fake shop fronts in Ireland for the G8 summit- just so the shithole looks 'ok' for the powers that be passing by.

www.rt.com

Helens nose is healing well, you'll be pleased to know.
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#802372 - 22nd Jun 2013 2:53pm Re: Computers for under 25 for those on benefits lies [Re: bumblebee]
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Yes Rudebox I totally agree.. and THANK YOU for the link to Russia Today's News site; it looks like I'll be able to find some actual real News there!

The Daily Mail is known for censoring/removing comments posted on articles which question their official line. It's just another govt. tell-you-what-to-think machine.

Tess x.

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#802399 - 22nd Jun 2013 3:47pm Re: Computers for under 25 for those on benefits lies [Re: bumblebee]
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This man only tells the truth, Max Keiser...,;-))

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#802407 - 22nd Jun 2013 4:17pm Re: Computers for under 25 for those on benefits lies [Re: bumblebee]
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#802832 - 24th Jun 2013 6:53pm Re: Computers for under 25 for those on benefits lies [Re: RUDEBOX]
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Spot on rudebox, what has happened to this country? this odious government are attacking the very being of our society, they preach goodwill to other countries that it is the duty of a civilised country to look after the poor the ill and the disabled yet take delight in using the present economic climate to put the boot in to us unchallenged ,they actually brag about how they are getting away with it, how August bank holiday should be renamed Thatcher day, wake up people the NHS is on its way to privatisation soething needs to be done, at the least start signing on line petitions against the cuts and the attacks on the NHS attend demos but don't let them get away with their insidious attacks on the welfare state.

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#802842 - 24th Jun 2013 7:31pm Re: Computers for under 25 for those on benefits lies [Re: bumblebee]
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omg no other country has a "free" medical service.

whats all the fuss about?

as for computers you can pick them up for buttons anyroad, try ebay.

they are not new but beggers cannot be choosers.

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#802851 - 24th Jun 2013 8:05pm Re: Computers for under 25 for those on benefits lies [Re: _Ste_]
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Originally Posted By: _Ste_
omg no other country has a "free" medical service...
Not true: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care

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#802982 - 25th Jun 2013 7:29am Re: Computers for under 25 for those on benefits lies [Re: _Ste_]
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Ste, the NHS is not free, it has been paid for by most of us via national insurance contributions,your comment beggars cannot be choosers is not one to use in this context and could be viewed as uncharitable, lets hope you never have to be in a position that you have to pay up front for medical treatment nor be a beggar for a computer.

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#803019 - 25th Jun 2013 10:32am Re: Computers for under 25 for those on benefits lies [Re: casper]
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Originally Posted By: casper
Ste, the NHS is not free, it has been paid for by most of us via national insurance contributions,your comment beggars cannot be choosers is not one to use in this context and could be viewed as uncharitable, lets hope you never have to be in a position that you have to pay up front for medical treatment nor be a beggar for a computer.


it is a figure of speech casper and yes i have been in that position like most other people.

there are plenty of computers on ebay for under 25, they may not be able to play the latest games or multitask but if they're just needed to find work they are good enough.

as for the nhs it is free in the sence that theres no huge bill to pay like most countries.

no offence.
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#803025 - 25th Jun 2013 11:08am Re: Computers for under 25 for those on benefits lies [Re: bumblebee]
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This isn't a new scheme, it was created in something like 2008 or 2009 by the previous government and was a rip off then.

What bothers me the most though is that many departments like the NHS do an IT equipment refresh every year or two. The equipment - usually good quality Dell or HP - is sold for a pittance to recycling companies who then sell them on at a profit for at least 125 and upwards.

Why on earth is some organisation like REMPLOY not handling them and re-purposing them for use like this?

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#803308 - 26th Jun 2013 5:57pm Re: Computers for under 25 for those on benefits lies [Re: _Ste_]
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Originally Posted By: _Ste_
...
there are plenty of computers on ebay for under 25, they may not be able to play the latest games or multitask but if they're just needed to find work they are good enough.
...
That reminds me; there is a guy in West Wirral that refurbs old computers, then puts them on Freecycle. The OP might want to look into it for his brother?

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#803310 - 26th Jun 2013 6:10pm Re: Computers for under 25 for those on benefits lies [Re: _Ste_]
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Originally Posted By: _Ste_
omg no other country has a "free" medical service.

whats all the fuss about?

as for computers you can pick them up for buttons anyroad, try ebay.

they are not new but beggers cannot be choosers.


I recently got an HP computer on Ebay. It has 40Gb memory, not much if you want to watch videos and films but plenty for general use and photos. It cost me 16 plus 8 for delivery, which was only a couple of days. You can get an Internet Provider very cheaply now as they are nearly all making offers but you also pay for telephone line which can be the most costly part at around 14 per month. There still some that offer a dial-up service where you pay for the phone line and simply pay for the time you spend on line which is billed monthly.

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#803320 - 26th Jun 2013 6:29pm Re: Computers for under 25 for those on benefits lies [Re: bumblebee]
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I've sold cheap refurb machines for a long time, they all come with genuine COA and Windows freshly installed with all the drivers and updates, often it's cheaper to buy one than to have an older machine repaired.

I did list a couple on here, ones that were too old for us to sell but we'd used them to teach people how to do installs on the PC etc, I put them up at a tenner to cut out the messers or the greedy ones you see on certain sites (Wanted: Free car, must have tax and MoT, cannot collect must be ble deliver. Don't laugh, these ads appear EVERY day). The problem was that some people complained that this was selling goods from my business,(if the place relied on selling 10 PC's that took several hours to check, clean and install ....... ) so I had to stop doing it.

Cheap computers are out there, if someone is disparate for one and just needs Internet access not high end gaming the cost can be minimal (you'll probably pay more for your Internet than the machine).

If you just need to get online you don't NEED the latest processor, you don't NEED a laptop, you don't NEED a huge hard drive or lots of memory, that is just what you WANT. You can get that later.

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#803324 - 26th Jun 2013 6:49pm Re: Computers for under 25 for those on benefits lies [Re: bumblebee]
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well said dr!

also you can goto asda and get a 3 mobile broadband dongle for 30.
comes with a gb of network and is used as basically like a payg monile phone.

you don't need to watch videos on it so it will last you and no huge bills or line rental to worry about.
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