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#787104 - 18th Apr 2013 2:27pm why don't we have this in Britain??
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-molesters.html

The Florida county where police post 'sexual predator' road signs outside homes of convicted rapists and child molesters

One Florida county is taking its duty to notify neighbors about sex offenders living in the community to the next level and posting red road side outside the homes of rapists and child molesters.

The sheriff of Bradford County, Florida, decided the reflective signs, which have each offender's name, should be planted on the roadways outside the houses of convicted sexual predators to ward off children and notify parents about potentially-dangerous convicts in the area.

'If it prevents one more victim in my community, I've done my job as sheriff,' Sheriff Gordon Smith told First Coast News.

The sheriff's office had jail inmates place the signs on public property outside the houses of convicted sexual predators

So far, the sheriff's office has made 18 signs at a cost of $10 apiece.

Captain Brad Smith, the chief of operations for the sheriff's office, told VICE magazine that the state of Florida mandates that police departments keep citizens informed about the sex offenders in the community.

The department already sends out notifications on Facebook and sends officers to warn neighbors door-to-door when a sexual predator moves in.

However, if a new family comes to a community after the notifications are sent out, Capt Smith says, they might not know a sex offender is living next door.

The signs costs $10 each and are customized with the name of the sex offender

VICE magazine suggested that the road signs could result in neighbors harassing sex offenders in the county.

'We don't expect that to happen, and if it does, we will do everything in our power to protect the person's rights,' Capt Smith said.

The signs are only posted for sexual predators - the worst sex offenders who have been convicted of raping a child or an adult.

John Goodman, a convicted sexual predator, told First Coast News that he doesn't have a problem with the signs.

'I've done learned my lesson. I don't do things like that anymore,' he said.

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#787154 - 18th Apr 2013 5:59pm Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? [Re: cathie]
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Peoples uman rites get in the way in this god forsaken country.

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#787330 - 19th Apr 2013 4:39am Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? [Re: cathie]
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I have the ability to check sex offenders on a website here and know of a few who live in my neighbourhood, and although I believe in theory that it's good to know who they are, there are some doubts I have and I'll try to explain why.
Anyone who has been convicted here WILL end up on the sex offenders registry, even if their crime was not what I would consider threatening for example :- Let's say an 18 year old boy goes out with a girl who is one day off turning 18. They have consentual sex whilst she is still by the law in USA considered a minor. Her parents find out and sue the boy for rape of a minor. He then ends up with a conviction and will be on the list forever. This in my mind is not fair, but it's still considered a sex offence.
Yes, pedo's, child molesters and the like should be on the list, however I believe it's wrong to lump ALL alleged sex offenders in the same category.

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#787367 - 19th Apr 2013 9:59am Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? [Re: cathie]
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@ Elizabeth,Yes, pedo's, child molesters and the like should be on the list, however I believe it's wrong to lump ALL alleged sex offenders in the same category. Its got to be proven if the offender has actualy molested or raped,if he is not guilty and still charged, A innocent man would have to live with this all his life and lose his job,breakup of marriage.his whole life falls apart.Most cases are allegations of rape or molesting when it never happened in the first place.Reason is that the female is attention seeking,drunk,or setting the guy up.As for pedos,The police can take there pc away and check it for any child porn etc,Most pedos you will find have alot of interest in kids stuff like catoons,drawings etc.And as the saying goes innocent till proven guilty.


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#787639 - 19th Apr 2013 11:32pm Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? [Re: guitarlad]
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Originally Posted By: guitarlad
@ Elizabeth,Yes, pedo's, child molesters and the like should be on the list, however I believe it's wrong to lump ALL alleged sex offenders in the same category. Its got to be proven if the offender has actualy molested or raped,if he is not guilty and still charged, A innocent man would have to live with this all his life and lose his job,breakup of marriage.his whole life falls apart.Most cases are allegations of rape or molesting when it never happened in the first place.Reason is that the female is attention seeking,drunk,or setting the guy up.As for pedos,The police can take there pc away and check it for any child porn etc,Most pedos you will find have alot of interest in kids stuff like catoons,drawings etc.And as the saying goes innocent till proven guilty.

Spoken like someone who knows an 'alleged' sex offender and is trying to excuse them! No smoke without fire in my opinion. (Notice the 'in my opinion' part!)

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#787642 - 19th Apr 2013 11:53pm Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? [Re: cathie]
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Guitarlad I should have said all CONVICTED and PROVEN GUILTY pedo's and child molesters should be on the list.

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#787656 - 20th Apr 2013 9:04am Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? [Re: cathie]
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A sign outside someone's house would I'd have thought be more likely to invite problems, seems a bit inflammatory to me.

'Them crazy ass yanks'

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#787664 - 20th Apr 2013 9:42am Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? [Re: Elizabeth]
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Originally Posted By: Elizabeth
Guitarlad I should have said all CONVICTED and PROVEN GUILTY pedo's and child molesters should be on the list.
Pedos and child molesters should be listed i do agree Elizabeth.What about there photo.do they show that on the list?

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#787706 - 20th Apr 2013 1:42pm Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? [Re: cathie]
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if they're convicted and proven guilty won't they be in jail? so the police put the sign outside the house, where he lived with wife and 3 kids one 18yo one 10 and one 7, now the 10 and 7yo go into care, yet the mum and 18yo stay at the house, someone sees the sign and the 18yo outside the house and tells his mate who thinking the 18yo must by the sicko beat the guy up and leave him for dead, then ask if it's a good thing.
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#787710 - 20th Apr 2013 1:55pm Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? [Re: cathie]
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there is already a database of uk and ireland peados here http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/
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#787738 - 20th Apr 2013 4:39pm Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? [Re: Willo_]
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Originally Posted By: BurgerChips
there is already a database of uk and ireland peados here http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/
BurgerChips how reliable is that list I only ask bud as I can't see the whole city of London only having 1 pedo think
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#787777 - 20th Apr 2013 7:20pm Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? [Re: guitarlad]
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Originally Posted By: guitarlad
@ Elizabeth,Yes, pedo's, child molesters and the like should be on the list, however I believe it's wrong to lump ALL alleged sex offenders in the same category. Its got to be proven if the offender has actualy molested or raped,if he is not guilty and still charged, A innocent man would have to live with this all his life and lose his job,breakup of marriage.his whole life falls apart.Most cases are allegations of rape or molesting when it never happened in the first place.Reason is that the female is attention seeking,drunk,or setting the guy up.As for pedos,The police can take there pc away and check it for any child porn etc,Most pedos you will find have alot of interest in kids stuff like catoons,drawings etc.And as the saying goes innocent till proven guilty.
I can see your point.Look at Jimmy saville he got away with so much.The shit hit the fan when he was dead and burried.As for pedos the police have the right to come and take your PC.As for allegations of rape or molesting well thats up to the victim to take it further .The pedo list is a really good idea.It is scary world isn it.
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#787791 - 20th Apr 2013 8:41pm Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? [Re: cathie]
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sadly lists are a bit like shutting the stable door when the horse has long gone.

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#787984 - 21st Apr 2013 3:38pm Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? [Re: mrhanky]
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Originally Posted By: mrhanky
sadly lists are a bit like shutting the stable door when the horse has long gone.
Or just sweep it under the carpet as the saying goes.
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#788013 - 21st Apr 2013 5:11pm Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? [Re: eddtheduck]
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Originally Posted By: eddtheduck
Originally Posted By: BurgerChips
there is already a database of uk and ireland peados here http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/
BurgerChips how reliable is that list I only ask bud as I can't see the whole city of London only having 1 pedo think


Where do you get '1' from ? London is showing as 711 sex offences if Im seeing it correctly.
Actually, I have to say Im quite amazed to see that this info is freely available . I thought it would only be available via authorized persons to a person who had a good reason for needing to know. Some of these have addresses with a specific road given. One of the addresses in wirral, gives a road where theres a very small number of houses,so not hard with a bit of research to pin the actual one down . Bit terrifying if you happened to move into such a property in later years and some earlier 'victim' decided to hunt their attacker down to take revenge. As we all know, revenge is best served cold.

edit - yeah, just looked , and Sarahs law implies that that is the case so Im puzzled.


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