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Pardon me ,if I'm wrong but don't people in private housing get 'housing benefit' too? Why is it not possible to find something in the private sector,for those who may have to downsize?
Rightmove have a lot of 1 bedroom properties listed at the moment.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property...;letFurnishType=unfurnished&index=10

http://www.cpag.org.uk/content/dwp-drops-supreme-court-appeal-over-disabled-children-‘bedroom-tax’

Alternative view, Rotty http://combatbedroomtax.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/dont-be-fooled-by-bedroom-tax.html

Majority are more expensive than a 3 bed Social Housing Home.

Deposit. Removal Costs.Fitting cooker/washing machine/shower costs. New Blinds/ curtains/ carpets.Mental stress. Isolation from social networks. Any adaptions? Lack of secure tenancy.Upper floors,perhaps? Pets allowed? DSS accepted?

Rotty, I would like to know just who determines that people are 'severley disabled'?

Who distinguishes between 'disabled' and 'severley disabled'? Surely, disabled is disabled, end of!!!!

Can't see why the council could not come to an agreement to pay the 'Housing Benefit' for the deposit. That could be a sensible move. Many of the properties now have newly fitted kitchens and bathrooms with cookers and showers etc. Also, if not carpets, there is laminated flooring throughout.
I agree many probably wouldn't accept pets but not all have pets.Also, they are not all long lease but there are many which are. So two possible problems, although it's not any different for those who are already in a private rental and on loosing their job, have to move to somewhere smaller/cheaper.
DSS are accepted in many properties because the landlords know they will get their rent.

Changing schools. Re-decoration. Transport. Emotional attachment to homes (loved ones ashes scattered in garden, for instance). Bereavement (preserving loved ones bedroom). Absent parents (is a 13 year old girl sharing a couch with her 9 year old brother acceptable in order to stay with an abscent parent, for a weekend or a school holiday)? How about Grandparents who look after their Grandchildren overnight in order for the parent to work? (Nurses, Care assistants, security guards etc etc)

Hang on a minute Rude, all I am saying is that for those who are worried about there not being enough 1 (one)bedroom properties, the answer is, that there are plenty in the private sector, should they be interested, desperate or prepared to find one.
I understand your concerns for those who might have to move away from their memories, nearest and dearet etc. but you have put a slightly different slant on this than was intended.
Unfortunately, sometimes, some of those thing have to be left behind as they are and have been, for those who have had to travel from one end of the country to the other for job reasons.
That's life.

Granny, you're trying to defend the indefensible. Rude has pointed out the many obscene holes in this ridiculous proposal by I.D.S.
The Bedroom Tax is basically about going after the weakest members of society. Instead of kicking people out of their homes and support networks, why don't the Government take some proper measures to sort out this mess? Introduce rent controls, build more social and council housing, restrict buy to let and introduce a Living Wage. All of these things would help reduce the Housing Benefit bill. Of course the Tories won't do this (or Labour) as they don't give a toss about ordinary people. And also too many people on here acting as Tory quislings.

think its a right kick in the b******s that on the same day thier introducing "bedroom tax" they are also introducing tax cuts for the rich!!how can this be deffended?

No way the council will pay deposits or removal costs!!They choked enough as it is.

'Private Landlord speak' regarding fitted kitchens and that, this and the other'.

One advert made me laugh- described the flat as 'compact'- ie a fecking shoebox!!!

'Carpeted/laminated flooring/ blinds' blah blah- c'mon Granny you must be aware of Advertising Talk! Be the shittest material known to man.

We could talk about this til the cows come home- the entire thread i.m.o is going around in circles- waste of time.

Sure, there will be a deluge of 'But I live in private accamodation and I ....blah blah'and then theres the 'im ok Jacks' brigade

We have paid full rent, 'no rent' and partial rent- obvs. depending on circumstances in this house for 20 years, nearly. This house is my HOME.

Also, to the same boring tune- we have a member who appears to be an animal lover,and yet assumes that people give pets bedrooms(duh) implicitly implying that fellow pet lovers should 'abandon' their pets upon implication of the bedroom tax/ spare room subsidy/ underoccupancy penalty as 'plebs'-are not allowed pets anymore.

I got a practically blind and deaf 13 year old Lab /Dal cross here-also got a full yellow lab who 'likes' to piss in the kitchen- she is 12 years old- so apart from the fact that these animals are as loved as -almost, if not equally my kids then how dare some 'alright jack' suggest I 'get rid' in order to move into a box.

Touchstone, I am not trying to defend anything. So many people on here have raised the issue that there are not enough one bedromm properties for rent.They are obviously relating to the Social Housing but if they could get private rentals, why is that not possible if they wanted one? Yes, they do need to build more social housing, they do need to introduce some form of rent control in the private sector, yes, restrict buy to let and they do need to control the estate agents fees.Estate Agents are the root of a lot of problems re private rentals. Having agreed with all that, it just means that the state(government) controls even moore. Can that be a good thing?
These things are not going to happen in the next three weeks.
I fully understand where Rude and all others on this march are coming from and do empathise but there are also other communities out there which also have to be considered, and if a family of 4/5 need housing they can afford when bringing up 3 children(I believe they are in the weakest position in our society) then truly I can't understand why those who are in a position to move to one bedroom and also wish to, can't find one to fit.
So put that in your pipe and smoke it, Touchstone

Rude, why are you taking this so personally?
I know nothing about you, your lifestyle or your pets. It doesn't matter, as surely this whole bedroom tax affair/opposition is for the good of all those who may be affected.