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Some of us obviously have it easy, but the people I work with every day are having their noses pushed into the ground more and more. I fear the riots are coming and they will make 2012 look like a blip.

Can you explain to me why those who are on the dole SHOULDN'T work for it? Sure they should, or do you think it should just be handed out with no incentive to get back to work?

I agree with you on that one. council tax is on the rise again hard to keep up with the cuts and poeple loosing there jobs.
Question is how the hell can this country provide aid for Syria?when we meant to be short of cash.
Rumour says that more poeple from overseas are coming over soon.where the hell is the goverment going to house them or find them work.

Can you explain to me why those who are on the dole SHOULDN'T work for it? I would be able to tell you, if I had of said that yes.
Sure they should, or do you think it should just be handed out with no incentive to get back to work? For give me if am daft, but is there not a incentive to stop claiming dole and go to work allready, (more money, and being able to provide for your family)

Sorry mate ill put it in bold so you can spot it...

As for that being an incentive why would people want to work when they can get money for free? Not everyone feels that state handouts aren't the norm. Unfortunately many people have grown up with every generation being on the dole. That mindset needs to be broken.

I have never said they shouldn't work for there dole money, i said its always the people who are well off and in stable job who seem to be saying it.

How people are better off on benefits is beyond me, how on earth do they 'work the system'? I was on benefits for 8 months last year and found it impossible to live on £71 @ week. I got rid of Sky, my landline, pet insurance etc and shopped around for everything, probably eating a lot of horse meat in doing so!

I'm working again now thankfully, but I don't think people should be made to work for their dole, if there's work to be done then the going rate should be paid for it.

We need to stop all aid to other countries and try and get our own house in order.

Making massive cuts and putting more people out of work isn't going to revive the economy.

Successive governments have all shied away from raising income tax, but I think they should

I've also pondered this because, for all the times in my life I've been unemployed, and now when I visit my unemployed friends homes, I've never ever seen it.

I've come to the only logical conclusion that there must be a button somewhere in their inconspicuously damp rented homes that, when pressed, swaps the chesterfield & massive state of the art entertainment sysytem, vintage Dom Perignon, beluga caviar and cohiba's - in a James Bond meets Bugsy Malone speakeasy style - for second hand furniture, happy shopper beans and roll-ups.

I'm not saying they should be working a full time week but 72 quid a week is effectively 12 hours pay. So what's the problem with that person doing 12 hours of work?

I agree totally I got made redundant from cadburys end 2011 iv had 2 jobs since 1st was only 16 hrs so I searched an searched an got a full time 1. There's people out there never had jobs with the additude there is none as I said iv had 2. Most of the 500 who got made redun wiv me r workin. Some people aren't interested cuz there comfortable on benefit.

AH wonderful, the governments divide and conquer tactics to have us plebs fighting with eachother about benefits when there are huge tax dodging corporations and greedy bankers causing far worse to society. reading this thread it seems it is working perfectly to plan hey. (oh, and I work five days a week in case anybody gets the wrong idea of my motives here)

A few facts on immigrants and politics:

Labour calls for immigration cut down after letting in 3.2 million foreigners
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/38...-after-letting-in-3-2-million-foreigners

Immigrants must live in Britain for a year before claiming benefits, says welfare minister
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ming-benefits-says-welfare-minister.html

Someone was recently moaning to me about how much the government gives out in foreign aid. Labour has also been spouting this, saying that charity should begin at home. (I totally agree) I pointed out that Labour actually DOUBLED the amount of foreign aid while they were in power, taking it to a staggering £7 billion by 2009.

This is the Socialist agenda at work (and you can now see it playing out in the USA under Obama, as we speak).
Make "the plebs" totally dependent upon the Government (or at least, offer a nice attractive "why work when you don't have to" mentality) and they will all vote Socialist for ever more.
By all means give benefits to people who TRULY NEED them but the creation of "the Welfare State" in a Democracy inevitably leads to this.
Fight on, Plebs! - but until we all take full responsibility for your own well-being and livelihood, then people will keep on moaning about "cuts" of many things that they should not have even needed the Guvmint to have provided for them in the first place.

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Oh!

Would you care to point out what you are trying to point out.

If you are going on about the bank statement, then please feel free to pm me your email address and I will gladly provide you with a copy of this, to prove I was not talking shit as you say I was.