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#765441 - 7th Feb 2013 3:44am Would you emigrate?
Elizabeth Offline
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I often see on forums or on facebook, people saying they hate the way Britain has become and they would give anything to move out, but I wonder how many people if they had the chance would actually emigrate leaving family, friends, lifestyle, and all other creature comforts behind?

Do we moan because we like to think we're hard done to, yet secretly are quite happy with our lot in life?

When I think about everything I have now and did have when I lived back in UK, there's very little that's changed really. I'm still the same person with the exact same gripes I had but just in a different country. So, I wonder why people feel the quality of their lives would be drastically altered just by moving away?

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#765443 - 7th Feb 2013 6:45am Re: Would you emigrate? [Re: Elizabeth]
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Hi Elizabeth
I think it depends on age and era. I emigrated when I was 20 because I could not see any future for me in Birkenhead. Late sixties and I was a flagger on the council, didn't seem to be much future in that and it just seemed that my life was revolving around work, the Pub and football. I don't believe I would be as well off as I am now If I had stayed.

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#765451 - 7th Feb 2013 7:47am Re: Would you emigrate? [Re: Elizabeth]
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I left the wirral for dubai a few years ago and I'm glad I did, I do enjoy coming back home, I'm home for ten days at the moment,

but the life I have in the UAE compared to what I would here is astonishing, I'm earning a good 10k PA more than I would be here, and the weather is better too!

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#765464 - 7th Feb 2013 9:00am Re: Would you emigrate? [Re: Elizabeth]
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Had an offer to live in Brisbane and the pressure from the wifes family caused her to bottle it when the plane tickets came through. Almost destroyed our marriage.

There is a lot of negativity in the UK at the moment, mostly from Facebook and the media. If you switch off from it, theres no reason why you cant have a happy life here.

Who knows if ill ever get another chance but im happy to be alive and have my family around me.

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#765502 - 7th Feb 2013 9:44am Re: Would you emigrate? [Re: Elizabeth]
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I think life changed in this country as soon as they lied and pushed us into the EU, I think the Commonwealth was the way to go, now we have destruction of the people of the country and higher taxes or in Labour parlance "investments", I suppose the grass is always greener when your looking from this way towards people living in another country, good luck to what ever decision you make with your lives, you still have contact on the internet to make it easier to "phone home".

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#765508 - 7th Feb 2013 9:49am Re: Would you emigrate? [Re: Elizabeth]
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I would be gone like a shot, if i was able, i still have a good life here, im happy but would prefer to live in Brisbane,

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#765510 - 7th Feb 2013 9:51am Re: Would you emigrate? [Re: Elizabeth]
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it would break my heart if my only son decided to emigrate with my grandson and also my granddaughter thats due this summer, they are the reasons i couldnt do it but id never try and stop him for finding a better life away from birkenhead
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#765524 - 7th Feb 2013 10:38am Re: Would you emigrate? [Re: mindplayer]
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I love Australia but I am glad I did not emigrate.The happy times I spent with my parents, grandparents and batchelor uncles can never be replaced.
Children you bring them up to have the confidence to explore and make their own decisions, so if mine wished to emigrate I would wish them well.
You made a good choice in your twenties as did my school friend who lives in Sydney.

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#765801 - 8th Feb 2013 12:43am Re: Would you emigrate? [Re: DeanoBirko]
Elizabeth Offline
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Originally Posted By: DeanoBirko


There is a lot of negativity in the UK at the moment, mostly from Facebook and the media. If you switch off from it, theres no reason why you cant have a happy life here.



That's exactly how I feel too, Deano. There's a lot of negativity here in USA too regarding such things as illegal immigrants, welfare fraud, healthcare, kids with no respect, no jobs etc which seems to be the same topics I read people complaining about in UK.
When we moved here back in 1996 it was due to husband's job and it was awful to have to leave what was an already happy life. I didn't know anyone here, had no idea where to get my hair done, which doctor or dentist were good and also getting used to the millions of tv channels was a nightmare.

Our children were only 7 & 5 when we came and therefore both sets of grandparents had to deal with losing the closeness they had developed with them frown Sadly, both my parents and in-laws have died since we moved here and I regret that neither of my kids really knew them (although we did phone as much as poss and would visit them once a year) it's still no substitute for being nearby.


I don't believe I am any better off money wise now than if I'd stayed on the Wirral, my house likely would be comparable to what I have in USA (minus the massive, much too big back garden which gets very old, very fast)

So, what I suppose I'm saying is what I originally posted, that if you're not happy with the country you live in now and pick fault with it's problems, you will find yourself doing the exact same thing in a different country once you realise that the streets are not all paved with gold and the grass is actually very much the same green colour everywhere you go smile

PS. it's our intention to move back to the Wirral in the future as no matter how bad some folk think it is, it's always been home to us and there's no other place like it as far as we're concerned smile

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#766521 - 9th Feb 2013 8:52pm Re: Would you emigrate? [Re: Elizabeth]
Jimz76 Offline
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Registered: 6th Aug 2012
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My old man use to say, "the grass may be greener, but you still have to mow it".

I know now that no matter where I go, I'll still be unhappy with something somewhere and moan away. May as well do it where my family are. They have to listen.


Edited by Jimz76 (9th Feb 2013 8:53pm)

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#766542 - 9th Feb 2013 10:13pm Re: Would you emigrate? [Re: Elizabeth]
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Registered: 31st Dec 2008
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Loc: wirral
I think if you are stuck in a rut then take the opportunity to go and live in another country, perhaps on a work permit initially. I went to Spain years ago to work but came back to the UK as it was not all sunshine and sangria it was made out to be. It was pretty hostile, and I did not speak Spanish. A world of opportunities is out there but, as long as you are safe, there is no reason not to go and explore. I don't regret Spain, perhaps would have regretted not taking the opportunity to go and work there if I had not done so.

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#766553 - 9th Feb 2013 11:30pm Re: Would you emigrate? [Re: Elizabeth]
granny Offline

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Registered: 29th Jun 2011
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My husband and I had the chance to emigrate to New Zealand in the 1970's. We did a trip there and visited north and south islands. Apart from the fact that it was an outdoor life with barbeques every weekend,(I don't think we had barbeques here then) everybody knew someone with a boat and the climate was lovely,nothing really grabbed me enough to want to leave the uk. Family also played a part.
Now, if my family got the opportunity I would encourage them as much as possible. Otherwise, they will hang around and watch me whither away and that seems a life wasted, when it could be more successful and fruitful,than anything that's on offer here in UK.
Canada would possibly be a nice place to go to.


Edited by granny (9th Feb 2013 11:31pm)
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#766637 - 10th Feb 2013 12:07pm Re: Would you emigrate? [Re: granny]
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I came to Canada when I was 20. After leaving school at 15 anf having various no where jobs for 5 years, it seemed like a good option. I have never regretted it. I sometimes feel guilt about leaving as if I bailed out or something like that. I was always proud of my heretige and would promote it when ever I could.

Canada has been very good to me and to most people who come here. Yes, we have problems but they seem minute compared to what I read about whats happening in the UK. I believe you have to be young to emigrate. Your more adaptable and open to new experiences. I could not do it now. I do miss the English way of life but it frightens me when I see whats going on.

So to the younger generation. GO FOR IT if you have the chance. Yes, you'll miss home but you'll be making a new better home.

Peter

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#766708 - 10th Feb 2013 4:58pm Re: Would you emigrate? [Re: Elizabeth]
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Registered: 1st Aug 2009
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Loc: Woodchurch
I love UK, and Iím happy to live and work in Birkenhead.

I holiday in Scotland one week per year and most weekends can be found in North Wales. I also do walks around Delamere forest or Beaston and do Chester Wall walk at least once a year (it changes every year).

There are also so many great places on the Wirral (want a good walk, try Roydon Park, after your walk you can pop into the 'Friends' cafe and have a coffee with a teacake or scone for £1.00) then there's the Wirral way, Storeton Woods, Eastham Woods and so much more.

If the politicians do something you don't like, then go to your local MPs surgery and tackle them about it make then do their Job and represent YOU.

If you want to change something for the better then VOLUNTEER for something (our present mob of sanctimonious Hypocritical B______s are cutting funding left right and centre so God knows there are enough charities and groups out there crying for help and PM me if you want to help older people).

Well done those who have found happiness abroad but for the rest of us letís look at our cup as being half full NOT half empty.

Oops Iím ranting again! but I wouldn't live anywhere else (and yes I have been abroad and seen other places).
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#767300 - 12th Feb 2013 1:03am Re: Would you emigrate? [Re: snowshoes]
Elizabeth Offline
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Loc: Prenton, Wirral
Originally Posted By: softshoes
Yes, we have problems but they seem minute compared to what I read about whats happening in the UK. I believe you have to be young to emigrate. I do miss the English way of life but it frightens me when I see whats going on.

Peter


I agree with you to a point Peter, but whenever I'm over in UK I realise how much I really love it there and that it is ultimately my home.

Another thing you mentioned about being young when you emigrate makes it easier to adapt. Both our children were very little when we came to USA (7 & 5) they went through the US education system, yet both ended up coming back to England to go to uni in Liverpool and now think of UK as their home (daughter said she would never return to live in USA now as she loves the Wirral too much!)
I suppose it very much depends on the person, whether they can embrace the new lifestyle they find themselves in or if they find themselves always thinking of life back home.

I love reading all the answers that are being posted though, it seems that the majority of the answers suggest most Wirral folk are quite content living there smile

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