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#754111 2nd Jan 2013 10:03am
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http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/live...its-cut-by-4-500-a-year-100252-32518487/

Who will help this family? Not Cameron or his supporters obviously!


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Why bring politics into it? It's clearly a system problem; the system is there whatever party is in government. Either the form wasn't filled in, or it was, and then the system lost it.


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£238 a week on the dole??? No wonder people can't be bothered working, wtf?

Is that how much you get on the dole?


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£238 a week is a very large amount of money to receive! My husband is registered as unable to work due to mental health problems amongst various other health issues. We have 2 young children and I am unable to work due to caring for him and we don't even receive the £150 a week that this woman is grumbling about!

I also know my husband's NINO off by heart and rely heavily on the support we receive but that isn't any justifcation to not be very grateful for the help we do get.

And let's not forget that on that high of a rate of benefits, housing benefit, council tax benefit etc will probably boost their weekly income by a further £200 a week as well.

I consider myself very lucky to be able to get the help we do get because without it, we wouldn't be able to provide for our children. I can't drive and live in a very rural area - my husband's mental health would not see him do very well living back in a busy area so we have no choice but to live here.

People should really start considering the possibility of being grateful for getting help when it is needed - many more people are suffering worse incomes and they work their bums off doing 2 jobs to make ends meet frown ( I am not in any way saying this lady doesn't suffer with her illnesses before anyone suggests I am heartless btw - I am very sympathetic towards her but feel they should consider themselves lucky to not be in the position of having their monies stopped all together like many thousands of people have had over the Christmas period including housing costs etc ) xx

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This is shocking but not in the way that it makes out !!!
Well said chriskay and Ste
And as britone said I'm someone who works a normal week of 57 hours a week and I sometimes find it hard but I get by and don't complain or think I should get any help !!!

If the form or letter was lost then its tough luck ain't it in my eyes why go the papers for this !!!

I was out of work once and had my dole stopped as I didn't apply for jobs as thee were none available that I met such as didn't have driving liecence but had to live with that till the decision was understood

And then we have all them pissheads and smack heads draining the system too really bugs me

Sorry rant over now back to work earn another penny or two

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There are folks who now believe that a benefit is a right to which they are entitled, it is not it has to be earned in the same way respect has to be and until they start believing that we will never turn the corner.

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I found this and have read the housing benefit (LHA) figures three times. It's still not clear in my head, as the figures seem vast amounts if they are weekly.
If this is correct, no wonder rents continuously increase. The landlords and agents, continue to make a packet out of the tax payer! Can't people see that? Same as all the tax credits. The employed people paying their tax are paying to keep the companies alive. The companies still make the same profits and have to give so much back in wages...therefore you have people earning megga bucks..indirectly paid for by the humble little tax payer. I think we have all had enough now. I'm tired of hearing about the moaning from out of works/benefits scroungers. They seem to think they are entitled to what others struggle to achieve.

http://www.wirral.gov.uk/benefits-calculator/


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This post is by the poster of "Do'es charity begin at home" which attracted a similar response,from wiki readers.
Your posts would seem to be following a trend, many people have similar problems with govenment departments but do not resort to media publicity.

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Originally Posted by saltytom
This post is by the poster of "Do'es charity begin at home" which attracted a similar response,from wiki readers.
Your posts would seem to be following a trend, many people have similar problems with govenment departments but do not resort to media publicity.


Yes saltytom...I think this one wears many hats, if you know what I mean !!

Have you seen the DIY post by the same?

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Lacylee #754177 2nd Jan 2013 2:22pm
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The law of post says that it is not classed as being the responsibility of the recipient until it has been received. If the sender can't prove that the letter got there e.g. Signed for then they don't have a leg to stand on. But on another note, the people who expect benefits are the reason this country has gone to sh*t. People expect something for nothing and it peeves me off.

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Those LHA figures can't be weekly!!! In Norfolf ( Breacklands to be precise ) the weekly LHA for a 3 bedroom is £128 - this works out over the 52 weks divided by the 12 months at just over £500 per month for a 3 bed property.

This is only given is you have children of opposite sexes with one being over the age of 10 though. Under 10 they can legally share a room so 2 bed rate would be given which over the course of the year divided by months is £460 per month laugh

( I do beggar anyone to find a house in Brecklands for under £500 a month for 2 bed though most 2 beds in the area are now through agencies at around £695 per month so you have to pay the shortfall yourself. Thankfully, we found a private landlord lol ) xxx

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Serious question. If you are bedbound and the carer can't go anywhere because they have to look after you then how much money do you actually require to fulfill your needs? Having lived on a lot less while working I just can't get my head round the figures. Any enlightenment welcomed.


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Good question, BandyCoot.


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That is what I wondered also Bandy. My husband is lucky enough to be able to move around and can still drive but I have to go everywhere with him due to his mental health problems - it is quite complicated in his case.

Were he unable to go out at all, my living costs would actually increase ten fold as I would have to rely on taxi's everywhere because we have no public transport within 18 miles of our village here.

I can't afford to sit my driving test despite being able to drive already and won't ask for further help to enable me to do so because, as of now, it isn't a major priority in our household and I know that if I was entitled to the help anyway, it could be better used for someone else.

My husband has just been informed that he is entitled to low rate DLA and myself to carer's allowance neither of which we choose to claim. i don't want to be paid to care for the man I love - I vowed to care for him in sickness and in health regardless of whether a payment was received! He won't claim for DLA as a matter of pride in some respects but also because we just about manage to get by - the money would be an excess that we aren't desperate for to live on day to day so again, would be better served going to people who genuinely need it ( although how many heroin addicts will benefit from our not claiming it I don't know! ) xx


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I admire your fortitude britt but you really should claim what you are entitled to, you must have worked and paid into the system some time in the past but circumstances have overtaken you. Nobody has a beef against those who are genuinely stuck up the creek, it's those who won't when they are able that get peoples' backs up.
I lived rural myself for quite a long time which is why I moved back to Birkenhead when I was in a position to do so. The country is alright for cows, sheep and yokels but it's no good for city people.


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