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#746467 - 28th Nov 2012 10:32am Start as you mean to go on
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One rule for them, another for us, ultimately we are paying for this, I cant even get my bins emptied Click
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#746474 - 28th Nov 2012 11:53am Re: Start as you mean to go on [Re: kamikazi]
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Registered: 2nd Jun 2009
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Unbelieveable somad
Am I right in thinking the planning office is still next door?

This council, and even worse the Planning department should hold their head in shame. verysorry

But I won't hold my breath.

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#746496 - 28th Nov 2012 1:36pm Re: Start as you mean to go on [Re: OxtonHill]
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WHAT a waste of space somad somad somad somad CUTS CUTS CUTS!!! the d**kheads who made this happen should be flogged in public!! then put in a metal container and then dumped off the liverpool bar!.. somad sick

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#746503 - 28th Nov 2012 2:01pm Re: Start as you mean to go on [Re: kamikazi]
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Somebody voted the politicians in and they are in charge, you get what you vote for.

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#746505 - 28th Nov 2012 2:29pm Re: Start as you mean to go on [Re: davew3]
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I don't believe I voted in Councilers to break the law?

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#746514 - 28th Nov 2012 3:43pm Re: Start as you mean to go on [Re: kamikazi]
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And yet I'm wrestling with the council to get change of use of a warehouse so that I can open up a leisure facility that will create jobs and potentially boost the local economy. I wonder what would happen if I refused to pay the newly increased fee which is nearly £400 and just cracked on without permission.


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#746532 - 28th Nov 2012 5:44pm Re: Start as you mean to go on [Re: kamikazi]
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If I am right in thinking Wirral council have allowed over 1500 people to take early voluntary retirement not so long ago I would imagine this has an impact on the remaining staff, and with more job losses on the horizon, I feel sorry for the staff remaining,

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#746612 - 28th Nov 2012 9:40pm Re: Start as you mean to go on [Re: kamikazi]
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The tories have battered all of the local authorities that are ran under Labour with huge cuts, coincidence much?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/nov/14/council-cuts-targeted-deprived-areas


Edited by EvilCycle (28th Nov 2012 9:44pm)

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#746626 - 28th Nov 2012 10:01pm Re: Start as you mean to go on [Re: kamikazi]
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You did not vote Graham Burgess in he was appointed.Councilors are elected by those who vote.
As for lack of planning permission this happens regularly, money wasted he will argue how we advertise the Wirral to investors.

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#746784 - 29th Nov 2012 5:47pm Re: Start as you mean to go on [Re: jimmythemoonlite]
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Originally Posted By: jimmythemoonlite
If I am right in thinking Wirral council have allowed over 1500 people to take early voluntary retirement not so long ago I would imagine this has an impact on the remaining staff, and with more job losses on the horizon, I feel sorry for the staff remaining,


No longer are council jobs for life. Article in local paper this week saying in a big sob story how staff are suffering from stress. I dare say they are, but so are those who have no job at all. So how about the council reducing the hours of their full time staff in an effort to help and reduce their stress levels, and employ some of the unemployed on part time hours? Could it work.....no! Simple, because those who suffer from stress in the work place are not likely to reduce their hours, they would sooner have sick pay and a longer time off, because it is 'stress'.
So far as the 'Welcome Gift' for the new Chief Executive is concerned, I believe that not all decissions are passed by the Councillors. Departments also make decissions and more than likley, someone has been told to get on with it, from a more senior member of the department, without knowing the so called 'ins and outs' or even being aware that the Town Hall is a listed building. Another 'nice little job' to keep the office junior busy. Order a bit of furniture, decorating, quotes for re-vamp , nothing hard about that is there? raftl Although it may not have been the office junior, it could have been someone from a temporary agency who was covering for someone who was off sick with stress (at astronomical cost)!
We'll never know, but it's time people who make 'big mistakes' are got rid of. If it was e.g nursing profession, doctors, teachers,care workers etc. they would be up before the Head! It's time some were sitting up and taking note, of how important it is to do their job correctly and if they don't know, then ask!
I've said enough.....but I'm not sorry this time.
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#746836 - 29th Nov 2012 9:01pm Re: Start as you mean to go on [Re: kamikazi]
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Registered: 4th May 2010
Posts: 1452
Loc: ex Wallasey now Atlanta GA USA
Seems to me the only time any elected person actually tries to do a decent job is when they are in genuine fear of being ousted at the next election.
Councillors (etc) who know darned well that come what may, they will still be elected, anyhow, no matter how badly they perform, are therefore the least likely to give a damn, unfortunately.

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#746918 - 30th Nov 2012 9:14am Re: Start as you mean to go on [Re: kamikazi]
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Registered: 29th Aug 2011
Posts: 820
Loc: wallasey
my sister in law works for the council and the money they waste is unbelievable!!!they get full pay when they are off sick so why wouldnt they go off!!!also i used to work in leasowe castle and the council used to often have conferences there that were charged at approx £95 per head and for that they used to get a room a white board and water tea or coffee and a couple of biscuits and a small buffet for lunch!!!!im sure if they looked they could of found a room in their office to have meetings on how to spend tax payers money!!!!!THEY ARE A DISGRACE!

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#747018 - 30th Nov 2012 6:53pm Re: Start as you mean to go on [Re: pokerchamp]
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Registered: 29th Jun 2011
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So right Pokerchamp. Another something they could stop wasting money on, is the Wirral Tourism Awards. What a joke that is. So few 'Visitor Attractions' in the area now, it's same old,same old, winners. Church Farm, Ness Gardens,Tam O'Shanters, Lady Lever & Port Sunlight. The same small hotels and the restaurants/pubs that are here one year and gone the next. At least, in the last couple of years the awards have been held at the Floral Pavilion, which must have been a little less expensive, than the years they held the event at Thornton Hall Hotel.

@EvilCycle... you may find that the Tory Councils in the southern part of the country pay less council tax per household than the Labour Councils in the north of the country. Always was that way, WMBC was (as I have said before) not so long ago, the third highest council tax bandings in the country.Liverpool was the highest! Maybe there is an attempt to even everyones council tax, nationwide. If one council can manage on a lot less, why not another. Nothing to do with Labour versus Tory. I'm sure you would be happier if your council tax didn't go up each year.How much more do you want to pay?


Edited by granny (30th Nov 2012 7:06pm)
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#747051 - 30th Nov 2012 9:55pm Re: Start as you mean to go on [Re: granny]
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Registered: 26th Jul 2008
Posts: 1499
Loc: Wallasey
Pokerchamp and granny, before you have all the council workers taken out and shot (as Jeremy Clarkson wanted) think about all the services the council runs and all the poor and deprived and underprivileged people it caters for. Then think about the hundreds of good committed workers just trying to do a good job. In all these cuts Burgess has not once hinted at getting rid of the sickies, which the vast majority of good workers would welcome. Finally just hope that you or one of your family never needs these services, or that when you are old or infirm you will have enough money to have yourselves looked after privately.

Too many people badmouth council workers without having a clue what they are talking about. We struggle year in and year out with cut back after cut back and try to do a good job and to smile at the same time! They have stolen our pension and now this barstard wants to steal our jobs.
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#747057 - 30th Nov 2012 10:36pm Re: Start as you mean to go on [Re: Capt_America]
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Registered: 31st Oct 2011
Posts: 164
Loc: wirral
The Burgess bloke was one of Derek Hattons henchmen some years ago, you would think he would be against any cuts! Those employed by the council are on Easy Street, no doubt.

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