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#742400 - 11th Nov 2012 8:55pm Old Bromborough Footpath/Railway?
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Hi, im wondering if anyone has any info regarding a path in bromborough - just for my own curiosity really!

The path starts at Port Sunlight train station, runs along the railway line, until it forks away by unilever. Then it follows Bromborough Road & turns left behind the new nursery. After that it pretty much heads in a straight line towards the river. When it passes under the road behind the Croft Retail Park (Stadium Road), there are railings and everything from there on is overgrown.

Ive always thought it was some kind of old railway line that had been disused years ago and tarmacced over, but i cant find reference to it anywhere?

Ill post some pics of the location in the next post, and also of what appears to be a small dock directly in line with it on the Mersey.

Thanks in advance
Cate

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#742404 - 11th Nov 2012 9:05pm Re: Old Bromborough Footpath/Railway? [Re: CateJones]
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The first photo shows the route (roughly), the second shows where the path now ends, and the last shows the water-line directly in line with the end of the path.


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#742413 - 11th Nov 2012 9:48pm Re: Old Bromborough Footpath/Railway? [Re: CateJones]
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The route carried workers to the factories at the likes of vandeburghs in the early part of the 1900's.
Latterly it was used from the docks up to the 1980's I think for oil of some description, from what I remember reading to somewhere down south .... maybe somebody can hallucinate.
During 1988 Unilever factory celebrated 90 years of operation and they had a weekend of fun and friviloties ... part of which was running a steam train along this section of line, I did go on it for a ride and then soon afterwards the trackbed was ripped up and the route made into footpaths.
I have some more info somewhere and there was a couple of websites/photo archives with info on, if I can remember where to find them.

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#742416 - 11th Nov 2012 10:22pm Re: Old Bromborough Footpath/Railway? [Re: Worzel]
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It used to be a railway line - a branch off the wirral line that used to transport raw materials - mainly oils to the old Van den Burgh factory in Bromborough. As you rightly point out it is now a cycle path although it is in a bit of a mess with tree roots making the path really bumpy

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#742420 - 11th Nov 2012 10:32pm Re: Old Bromborough Footpath/Railway? [Re: CateJones]
CateJones Offline
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Ahhhh thanks guys!!

I always thought railway, but when I looked for an old station in brom, I couldn't find anything!!

But if it was mainly to supply the factory, that'd make sense!!

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#742422 - 11th Nov 2012 10:42pm Re: Old Bromborough Footpath/Railway? [Re: CateJones]
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There's an interesting book, The Railways of Port Sunlight and Bromborough Port by M.D.Lister, detailing all the private factory lines. According to this book the total length of Lever's railways was 52 track miles.
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#742424 - 11th Nov 2012 10:47pm Re: Old Bromborough Footpath/Railway? [Re: CateJones]
CateJones Offline
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Really??
Will have to look it up, I find it really interesting how many lines the Wirral used to have, compared to now!!

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#742434 - 12th Nov 2012 1:48am Re: Old Bromborough Footpath/Railway? [Re: CateJones]
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I worked at Levers from 1961. The railways
were then still an important transport route for
Port Sunlight and lines covered much of the
factory site with loading bays at the rear
of most factory buildings. They had several
shunting engines and their own shed. Rail
was gradually phased out although new buildings
were still provided with rail links in the '70's.
The rail link down to Van den Burghs came into
Port Sunlight sidings to join the main line.
You can still walk it on the path but it is not
well maintained. Videos of the line with steam
trains on the open day are on Youtube

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#742440 - 12th Nov 2012 7:41am Re: Old Bromborough Footpath/Railway? [Re: CateJones]
pacef8 Offline
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Registered: 27th Dec 2008
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Loc: south wirral
You need to visit the Sunlight Museam and see the sclale model of the village. This shows all the rail siding and yes they probable do add up to 55 miles.

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#742446 - 12th Nov 2012 8:21am Re: Old Bromborough Footpath/Railway? [Re: CateJones]
KevinFinity Offline

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There are loads of pictures of it from the wiki walk some time ago.

http://www.wikiwirral.co.uk/forums/ubbth...html#Post408114

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#742448 - 12th Nov 2012 8:30am Re: Old Bromborough Footpath/Railway? [Re: CateJones]
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The railway ran parallel to Magazine Road in a rock cutting, and split into two branches - one rising on a gradient up to the junction of Thermal Road and Stadium Road and turning right at 'Port Rainbow'/Brotherton's Factory to continue to The Margarine works and Bromborough power station at the side of Stadium Road.

The other line continued in the cutting, passed under Thermal Road, and continued to Bromborough Dock - not the bit shown in your third photo (which was Magazine Village), but to the main dock futher along (near Dock Road South today).

I've only got details of this last bit handy at the moment, but as has been already stated, 'The 'Railways of Port Sunlight and Bromborough Port' book are recommended reading.

The two views I have added show the the aerial, and then overlaid with what used to be there - the line can be seen swinging away from Magazine Village left towards Bromborough Dock.


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#742476 - 12th Nov 2012 11:09am Re: Old Bromborough Footpath/Railway? [Re: billy_anorak59]
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Registered: 25th Oct 2007
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Loc: shropshire
Here's one of the many maps from "The Railways of Port Sunlight and Bromborough Port"
It shows the route mentioned in the first post of the thread.


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#743318 - 15th Nov 2012 10:03am Re: Old Bromborough Footpath/Railway? [Re: CateJones]
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Loc: bromborough
I remember this railway as a child,looking down on it from the old footbridge on the A41, in the early 80's,looked as though the port sunlight side of the railway was still in use as it was clear of weeds/grass and the magazine road side of the railway was dissused as it it was covered in grass etc, remember spoting it from the top a double decker bus in 70's and thinking how do trains run along a grass covered railway ha. Also the track had been lifted under the A41 bridge obviously disconecting the two sections. Wish i had some photos of it as you cant seem to find any of it in the 70's/ 80's,i have the book though which is quite good.

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#743352 - 15th Nov 2012 1:06pm Re: Old Bromborough Footpath/Railway? [Re: eruption1984]
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The original track was lifted in the mid-70's I think. A lot of the rails (which were lightweight compared to main line standards)was given to railway preservation societies. The main line down to Van den Berghs was relaid in the 80's using heavy quality main line rail to take the 100 ton tanker wagons. This was built using large government grants. When the tanker traffic finished the railway was lifted very quickly.
I was fireman on 7298 during the Levers centenary weekend & had quite a few runs down the branch.

Bob.

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#743359 - 15th Nov 2012 1:38pm Re: Old Bromborough Footpath/Railway? [Re: CateJones]
eruption1984 Offline
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Registered: 22nd Dec 2009
Posts: 8
Loc: bromborough
Also remember walking along the tracks down at mctays yard in the mid 80's, again heavily overgrown, seem to remember there being a couple oil waggons left abandoned but could be wrong.Would be great if anybody had any photos to put up of this line and any other dissused tracks on the wirral such as msc in eastham,birkenhead docks,cammel lairds branch,town Station and monks ferry,and Hooton to west kirby , always looking on site and net for new photos but never seem to find anything differnt,also shots of green lane junction/mollington street entrance,not asking for much am I, HA HA. Fancied making a layout at home of town station or monks ferry but just not many detailed photos to give a good all round impression of the sites.

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