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#711243 - 21st Jul 2012 8:18pm Rest Hill Road Maps
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Hi I was wondering whether anybody has an old map or ordinance survey maps of rest hill road in Storeton?

Thanks in advance

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#711268 - 21st Jul 2012 10:57pm Re: Rest Hill Road Maps [Re: BennyBoy]
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I've found this website handy for browsing old maps:
http://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html

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#711272 - 21st Jul 2012 11:21pm Re: Rest Hill Road Maps [Re: BennyBoy]
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also this link is good http://maps.cheshire.gov.uk/tithemaps/

shows the tithe maps and maps of deifferent era's also a modern day map so you know what the area is like now

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#711288 - 22nd Jul 2012 8:27am Re: Rest Hill Road Maps [Re: BennyBoy]
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Thanks. Basically I am looking for a map that will show the location of old ditches for drainage purposes. As rest hill road is on a hill there are problems with drainage and we want to see if there was an old ditch that we can use?

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#711328 - 22nd Jul 2012 12:03pm Re: Rest Hill Road Maps [Re: BennyBoy]
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look here for some maps that may help click


quote=geekus]Try and get your hands on a copy of the 'Waterside Wirral' book, produced by the Mersey Basin Trust. It's full of maps, photos, and info etc., on Wirral's waterways. Ask at your local library if you can't find one in the shops. Seem to think it use to sell for something like a fiver.


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#711337 - 22nd Jul 2012 1:02pm Re: Rest Hill Road Maps [Re: BennyBoy]
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Can anybody explain what the numbers and letters/number mean on some of these old maps.
Or point me to a site that will
(have tried ordnance survey site


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#711338 - 22nd Jul 2012 1:14pm Re: Rest Hill Road Maps [Re: BennyBoy]
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The blue circled one is a Bench Mark with height. The roadside red circle is a spot height by the look of it. The red circled figs. in the fields are parcels of land with acreage shown.

The above info is off the top of my swede and I stand to be corrected by more knowledgeable folk !

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#711346 - 22nd Jul 2012 1:48pm Re: Rest Hill Road Maps [Re: ]
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As you can see below on the 1836 map there are two ponds or similar. The modern day map shows one. Also, if you look at a modern day map then a small canal or something similar runs right through the landscape which I presume is to stop water running down the hill and cause flooding.

This is a big help as we are having problems with drainage after heavy rain fall its like a bog in some areas.

Hopefully we can use the old ponds/ditches to channel the rain fall (hopefully).

I will take your advice derek and go to the library and find out more.


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#711347 - 22nd Jul 2012 1:51pm Re: Rest Hill Road Maps [Re: BennyBoy]
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Apologies to BennyBoy forgoing a bit off topic, but in reply to
Pinzgauer post I noticed in a pdf of old cheshire words but the standard Imperial measure was
1 (square rod) = 30.25 square yards


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#711358 - 22nd Jul 2012 3:18pm Re: Rest Hill Road Maps [Re: BennyBoy]
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A rod, pole or perch.... on the back of all good exercise books!!

Is that the same beast ?

Has a rood or roods any connection with Chester's "Roodee" ? Just a thought.


Edited by Pinzgauer (22nd Jul 2012 3:19pm)

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#711487 - 23rd Jul 2012 8:52am Re: Rest Hill Road Maps [Re: BennyBoy]
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Looking at my last post I wonder if Laird and those earlier folks that bought land came along and said we buy land at £-- so much per acre in? and paid that much for acres on Wirral and so got the land for half of what they would have paid elsewhere.

ps I wonder if a pole measurement was taken from a fishing rod type of thing that they may have used which was similar in length to the poles you can buy nowadays (are they a recent thing never saw any years ago when I used to go freshwater fishing - rod and reel only)


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#711511 - 23rd Jul 2012 11:07am Re: Rest Hill Road Maps [Re: derekdwc]
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Hi, thefirst number(whole number) is the land parcel number, ie field number.The second is its area in acres.
Hope this helps.
Pete.

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#711517 - 23rd Jul 2012 11:38am Re: Rest Hill Road Maps [Re: derekdwc]
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Originally Posted By: derekdwc
Looking at my last post I wonder if Laird and those earlier folks that bought land came along and said we buy land at £-- so much per acre in? and paid that much for acres on Wirral and so got the land for half of what they would have paid elsewhere.

ps I wonder if a pole measurement was taken from a fishing rod type of thing that they may have used which was similar in length to the poles you can buy nowadays (are they a recent thing never saw any years ago when I used to go freshwater fishing - rod and reel only)


Highly unlikely Derek, as all local land transactions would normally have been carried out using the Cheshire or Large Acre (roughly 2.12 the size of a Statute Acre); if Statute measurement was used it was always clearly stated in the description of the property, and very often both measurements were specified to avoid confusion.

For the record, the measurements generally used in this area were acres, roods and perches; 40 perches made one rood (also, confusingly, sometimes referred to as a rod), and four roods made one acre, and this applied whether you were using Cheshire or Statute acreage.

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#712207 - 26th Jul 2012 6:41pm Re: Rest Hill Road Maps [Re: BennyBoy]
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slightly off topic but i love this road, part of my running route, never have i blown out of my arse as much running along it!!
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#714582 - 6th Aug 2012 8:19pm Re: Rest Hill Road Maps [Re: derekdwc]
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Originally Posted By: derekdwc

ps I wonder if a pole measurement was taken from a fishing rod type of thing that they may have used which was similar in length to the poles you can buy nowadays (are they a recent thing never saw any years ago when I used to go freshwater fishing - rod and reel only)


Poles are indeed ancient and rods relatively new...fishing wise...!

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