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#705566 - 28th Jun 2012 3:24pm Where are these streets please
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Been down the archives looking at 1896/1900 licences and don't know where these streets were/are.
Any help would be appreciated
Demean Street poss may be Demain streetin Seacombe
Earl street
Meadow Lane
Mill street
Vincent street
Vine street
Walker street
Warrington street

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#705580 - 28th Jun 2012 4:36pm Re: Where are these streets please [Re: derekdwc]
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Vine St was parallel with Brook St and Price St, having Vittoria St at the east end and Livingstone St at the west end. It faced Cottage St, which is still there.

Walker St is still there, too. Opposite the top of Downham Rd, across Church Rd, with 'The Beehive' on the corner.

Vincent St still runs from Grange Rd (Pykes corner) to Borough Rd, behind the old fire station.

Mill St, Derby Rd to Church Rd, one road north of Whitfield St. Opposite the end of Aspendale Rd to the west, and the end of Thompson St to the east. Nowadays it's cut short and turns into Whitfield St. The Imperial Hotel is/was on the corner with Derby Rd.

Warrington St runs from the junction of Wheatstone Lane, Church Rd and Holt Hill. It goes south from there and parallel with Church St (but to the east of it) and into Thompson St.

I'll have to think about the others, but I didn't know of any licenced premises in the roads I've identified.


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#705584 - 28th Jun 2012 5:08pm Re: Where are these streets please [Re: derekdwc]
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Desmense st pronounced demain, is close to Secombe ferry. Leasowe castle Pub located there.

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#705589 - 28th Jun 2012 5:29pm Re: Where are these streets please [Re: derekdwc]
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Vincent street birkenhead is off grange road
Wallker st was off church road b-head
Warrington st was off top of whetstone lane jcn church road b-head

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#705592 - 28th Jun 2012 5:42pm Re: Where are these streets please [Re: derekdwc]
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Meadow Lane by Lidl, off Old chester Road opposite Well Lane

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#705599 - 28th Jun 2012 6:36pm Re: Where are these streets please [Re: derekdwc]
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Meadow lane is off St Pauls road which is the road in the above post Streets off meadow lane were Meteor St,Comet st.Planet St and Lunar St.Pub at the corner of Meadow Lane and St Pauls Road is The Lord Napier
Alan


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#705608 - 28th Jun 2012 7:37pm Re: Where are these streets please [Re: Dilly]
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Originally Posted By: dilly
Desmense st pronounced demain, is close to Secombe ferry. Leasowe castle pub located there.


Actually spelled Demesne St. Northwards continuation of Borough Rd. East.
A demesne was originally the land attached to a manor house and would usually be worked by the lord's tenants. The word is French; the English equivalent would be domain.
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#705618 - 28th Jun 2012 9:02pm Re: Where are these streets please [Re: derekdwc]
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There is another Meadow lane which is the unmade road/track the runs off the top of Red Hill Road in Higher Bebington. It runs infront of Wishing Gate House. I dont think there was ever a Pub there though!

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#705645 - 28th Jun 2012 10:12pm Re: Where are these streets please [Re: derekdwc]
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In 1901, the Revenue Hotel was at 30 Demesne Street, Poulton cum Seacombe - Michael Sherry, Tavern Keeper.

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#705646 - 28th Jun 2012 10:12pm Re: Where are these streets please [Re: derekdwc]
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sorry for my mis spelling, but I thought this was a History section not an english test.

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#705648 - 28th Jun 2012 10:19pm Re: Where are these streets please [Re: Dilly]
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Originally Posted By: dilly
sorry for my mis spelling, but I thought this was a history section not an english test.


I corrected the spelling in case anyone wanted to do a search for it; anyone searching for your spelling wouldn't have found it. Accuracy is important in a History context.
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#705668 - 29th Jun 2012 12:00am Re: Where are these streets please [Re: derekdwc]
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Thank you for all your replies.

Anyone know where Earl street is/was?

These may jog someone's memory
Alma Vaults Earl street
Wellington Vaults Earl street
Grosvenor Vaults Earl street
Royal Albert Inn Earl street

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#705672 - 29th Jun 2012 12:14am Re: Where are these streets please [Re: derekdwc]
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Earl St was off St Pauls Road, according to the 1916 Birkenhead directory.
Also, there is still an Earl St between New Chester Rd and New Ferry Road, New Ferry. The directory only gives the one entry, which you can see in the extract.


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Description: From Birkenhead Street Directory, 1916.




Edited by Norton (29th Jun 2012 12:17am)

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#705892 - 30th Jun 2012 6:08pm Re: Where are these streets please [Re: derekdwc]
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queens vaults conway street

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#705896 - 30th Jun 2012 6:55pm Re: Where are these streets please [Re: Norton]
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Extract from Kellys Directory for 1902, below.

Note that some of the street names were changed.
Earl St used to be called Duke St, and is now Thorsway.
Blucher St used to be called Wellington St.
Pitt St and Brunswick St were not changed.

The comparisons were made using the 1875 Town Map (500) and the 1912 one.

The roads were to the south of St Pauls Rd, between the railway line and New Chester Road.


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