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#69281 - 1st Sep 2006 12:46pm Driving On the Hard Shoulder - Active Traffic Management
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Its currently being tested out on the
M42 Junctions 3A-7 and could go national soon.

They have copied the idea from other
countries and its said to be a success.

What do you think... omg
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#69282 - 1st Sep 2006 1:20pm Re: Driving On the Hard Shoulder - Active Traffic Management
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I heard about this a few months ago, I think it was most probably on the BBC website. It seems a good idea to me when there is massive congestion, they are forever letting people use the M6 and M5 hard shoulders when roadworks are taking place causing the amount of available lanes to be reduced, and it seems to work well.

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#69283 - 1st Sep 2006 2:23pm Re: Driving On the Hard Shoulder - Active Traffic Management
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yep i seen the hard shoulders in action before, i was on the first lane. Well i was headin to get me alloys an as i was driving back i was in me own little world an i noticed the road works but hadnt noticed i changed from second lane to first lane. suddently i clicked on n started to think wot the hells goin on here what are the other road users doin on the hard shoulder raftl

It is a very gd idea when doin road works!

Was mad to see cars on the hard shoulders tho, i even wanted to change lanes to the hard shoulder but it was too busy so cudnt.

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#69284 - 1st Sep 2006 5:00pm Re: Driving On the Hard Shoulder - Active Traffic Management
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I'm not convinced yet,
but then again this far north we dont experience
half the jams
that can be around birmingham.

So it would probably recieve a warm welcome
in that area,
Would be strange to see cars going
down the hard shoulder.

But as many concerns have been raised
about the Saftey net of just
having a hard shoulder if there is a problem
and not having the momentum to
find a safe layby.

In time we shall be converted,
but you know what us Brits are like
as soon as there is a death due to breaking
down on the Hard Shoulder (New First Lane).
When Active Traffic is active.

I think its a good idea,
but have my concerns with saftey.
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#69285 - 2nd Sep 2006 3:08am Re: Driving On the Hard Shoulder - Active Traffic Management
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I have travelled on the M25 several times now where it has a whopping 6 Lanes on each carridgeway smack

To be honest its a load of shite. The inside 3 lanes are empty, everyone uses the outer 3 lanes only. The traffic flow is NOT improved at all.

This is what is needed :

Big signs stating :Drivers : The middle and outer lanes are for overtaking only. Keep Left

I am so fed up of foreign and english drivers simply sitting in the middle lane and outer lane when they are not even overtaking, this stops vehicles behind them from overtaking therefore causes conjestion. If they simply turned there steering wheel slightly to the left for a second or two and shifted the **** out of my way then the motorways would flow allot better and freely.

Half the drivers look like illegal immigrants who probably dont have a driving licence, insurance nor MOT. They dont have a clue, they drive in the middle lane at about 55 - 60 mph blocking everyone. You can spot them from about half a mile away, Tossers.

Motorway instruction should be a compulsary part of a driving test

Rant over.....

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