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#688628 - 27th Apr 2012 10:29pm Bidston Link Roundabout
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Why has there been a fence built on the grass verge alongside the road on the Wallasey Link Road onto the Bidston Roundabout? It seems dangerous to me as it blocks the view of the roundabout to check for oncoming traffic.

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#688638 - 27th Apr 2012 10:38pm Re: Bidston Link Roundabout [Re: ProfHarry]
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Originally Posted By: ProfHarry
It seems dangerous to me as it blocks the view of the roundabout to check for oncoming traffic.


I think that's exactly why they've done it.
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#688639 - 27th Apr 2012 10:39pm Re: Bidston Link Roundabout [Re: ProfHarry]
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I have wondered that myself, seems silly, but there may be some method in their madness, maybe to make cars slow down before they join the roundabout

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#688655 - 27th Apr 2012 11:07pm Re: Bidston Link Roundabout [Re: ProfHarry]
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I noticed this yesterday morning a 5am when approaching in the dark and not knowing the fence had been put there, so seeing no lights on the roundabout just slowed slightly and pulled straight onto the roundabout. Luckily nothing was behind the fence really, it should have some fluorescent markers on it at least

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#688656 - 27th Apr 2012 11:07pm Re: Bidston Link Roundabout [Re: x_plore]
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Spotted it today, they may plant trees next to it aswell. It will def slow traffic down, not a bad thing.

It def needs markers on it though!!


Edited by kevinhit (27th Apr 2012 11:19pm)

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#688679 - 27th Apr 2012 11:43pm Re: Bidston Link Roundabout [Re: kevinhit]
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Why does it need markers on it? The road signs and road markings tell you what is ahead.

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#688683 - 27th Apr 2012 11:51pm Re: Bidston Link Roundabout [Re: x_plore]
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Originally Posted By: lozzer
I have wondered that myself, seems silly, but there may be some method in their madness, maybe to make cars slow down before they join the roundabout

Exactly!

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#688685 - 27th Apr 2012 11:54pm Re: Bidston Link Roundabout [Re: ProfHarry]
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I can see afew accidents happening there. Wiggi77- you'll be like many motorists, on your approach to the r/about not realising the fence is there obstructing the view.... and you pull out!!! Surely, giving the driver a better view of the traffic on the r/about is the sensible option especially given the national speed limits around there. A roundabout is a 'give-way' to allow traffic to flow not a 'stop'. The fences will cause tailbacks up the slip road as stationary cars are trying to join a fast flowing 40mph r/about.

There must have been some spare cash after fixing the m53 flyover or B&Q might have a Sale on fences. smirk


Edited by gingevans (27th Apr 2012 11:57pm)

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#688691 - 27th Apr 2012 11:57pm Re: Bidston Link Roundabout [Re: Sammy1969]
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Originally Posted By: Sammy1969
Why does it need markers on it? The road signs and road markings tell you what is ahead.


Because the people who have been driving down there for the past number of years in the dark may not see it and presume there is no traffic on the roundabout and proceed onto it when there is actually traffic behind the fence causing an accident. I'm all for slowing the traffic down but this just makes you need to stop virtually, what's the point?

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#688700 - 28th Apr 2012 12:12am Re: Bidston Link Roundabout [Re: ProfHarry]
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I can understand the point of view regarding the fence slowing traffic down; also the night time problem - that could be very nasty.

However, when there was a clear view of traffic approaching from the right not only could you see but also judge the speed and adjust your own entrance onto the roundabout in a safe manner.

Anyone seen anything like it elsewhere?

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#688721 - 28th Apr 2012 12:50am Re: Bidston Link Roundabout [Re: Moonstar]
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#688785 - 28th Apr 2012 11:13am Re: Bidston Link Roundabout [Re: ProfHarry]
alidoodle Offline
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My first thought on seeing the fence was that it was going to be used for advertising businesses etc.?

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#688922 - 28th Apr 2012 9:02pm Re: Bidston Link Roundabout [Re: ProfHarry]
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Probably designed by a fellow idiot to the one who did St. James' roundabout. This fence is a road safety HAZARD!

Bob.


Edited by 8HBob (28th Apr 2012 9:03pm)

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#688990 - 29th Apr 2012 8:18am Re: Bidston Link Roundabout [Re: 8HBob]
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Originally Posted By: 8HBob
Probably designed by a fellow idiot to the one who did St. James' roundabout. This fence is a road safety HAZARD!


I oftern say the person that did St James does not drive. I think the fence will cause a serious accident,some numpty will see a vehicle approaching think I have time if put my foot down mis-judge the speed. Most people travel as if they had to be there yesterday,instead of leaving time for there journey,cutting in gaps that are dangerous,tailgating,hardly giving drivers time to clear a roundabout before they join. Enough said rant over.
Bob.


Edited by alfiemag (29th Apr 2012 8:19am)

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#689674 - 2nd May 2012 7:46am Re: Bidston Link Roundabout [Re: ProfHarry]
kemirakid Offline
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Registered: 21st Aug 2011
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surely planning permission would be needed to erect a fence that tall??

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