WikiWirral is where great friendships are made.
Forum Stats
12182 Members
65 Forums
72585 Topics
978159 Posts
61 posts in the last 24hrs
Max Online: 7831 @ 8th Apr 2013 4:18pm
Who's Online - Click Me
99 registered (221984, 16 invisible), 1585 Guests and 235 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


(Views 7days)This Weeks Most Read
Broweser for web novice 587
Need help 358
Wirral High Tides? 338
Sometimes You Could Strangle Someone 307
Found a mobile phone 14/01/2017 WALLASEY 302
Asbestos shed removal 289
Lost Mobile Phone 228
I, Daniel Blake 215
Rip 2017 (May offend) 214
RAC ,AA v Breakdown Recovery 211
New General Forums
The Green Eyed Girl
by granny
57 minutes 3 seconds ago
Breastfeeding Dads Want to Be A Breastfeeding Hero
by fish5133
Yesterday at 01:24 PM
9\11 Jumpers
by cools
15th Jan 2017 10:04am
Silent Solution
by venice
14th Jan 2017 9:58pm
New Wirral History
What was County Hall, Abbey Street, Birkenhead?
by yoller
15th Jan 2017 1:28pm
752 The Old Manor Club, Withens Lane, Liscard
by Norton
13th Jan 2017 2:20pm
751 Plough Inn, Mount Pleasant Rd, New Brighton
by Norton
13th Jan 2017 1:38pm
351 Prince Alfred 30 Tunnel Road 30 30 to 32
by yoller
8th Jan 2017 7:18pm
167 Wirral Arms George Street 9 Grange Street
by yoller
8th Jan 2017 7:11pm
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
fireworks on the Mersey last night
Hadlow train station
Topic Replies
viewsonic 22" monitor
by tommybarry
25 minutes 29 seconds ago
Paypal help
by granny
54 minutes 41 seconds ago
The Green Eyed Girl
by granny
58 minutes 15 seconds ago
Taylors Villas 1874 any info?
by marty99fred
Today at 10:12 PM
Does anyone remember the welly club in tranmere
by Collette63
Today at 08:37 PM
A Little Girl Gets A Kitten
by fish5133
Today at 06:19 PM
Astra 1.9 diesel 06
by lansyp
Today at 05:55 PM
Wanted old cars spares or repairs
by lansyp
Today at 05:51 PM
Secretive mega shake-up of NHS could cost 15 mil
by fish5133
Today at 04:45 PM
January
M Tu W Th F Sa Su
1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30 31
Recent Posts : What's On ?
Indian/Jazz fusion music Liverpool
by buddy
Today at 09:46 AM
Chinese New Year Liverpool
by paxvobiscum
15th Jan 2017 11:08am
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#682924 - 8th Apr 2012 11:51am Argyle st/Cleveland st corner queries
derekdwc Online   content


Forum Veteran

Registered: 13th Oct 2008
Posts: 4960
Loc: Birkenhead
I'm trying to find some pics I've seen
1 the shelter/canopy on Argyle st/Cleveland st corner to match up with these street view pics and find out what it once was.
Somebody told me once it was the stables for the Cleveland Arms.

2 A picture of a tram passing a church on the other corner where the treasury? building is


Attachments: Viewing Permissions May Apply. Click Me
cleveland st1.jpg

cleveland st2.jpg

cleveland stables3.jpg

cleveland stables4.jpg

treasury building1.jpg



Top
Wirral History Info Advertising
Click me for more Information......

WikiWirral Numbers : Between 150 and 200 New Members Every Month. With Over 3,500 unique visits and 35,000 Page Views each day. Average +500 Search Engines Daily and over 1,000,000 Million Page views a Month. Advertising from 20 . Click Me
#682935 - 8th Apr 2012 1:08pm Re: Argyle st/Cleveland st corner queries [Re: derekdwc]
rosieb Offline
Newbeee

Registered: 13th Aug 2011
Posts: 39
Loc: birkenhead
it was a bus stop i can remember getting 94 bus to north end

Top
#683985 - 11th Apr 2012 11:29am Re: Argyle st/Cleveland st corner queries [Re: derekdwc]
marty99fred Online   Frustrated

Smartchild

Registered: 11th Mar 2009
Posts: 464
Loc: Pensby
I've always been puzzled by this one, as none of the other houses on Hamilton Square have anything like it, but I've never been able to find any info on what it was for. The early maps show that 19 Hamilton Square was originally built with its 'front' door on the side, facing onto Cleveland Street. At some point in the late 1800s an extension was added to the side of the building and the original door casing was replaced on the end of it, facing onto Hamilton Square as it does now. Presumably the whole wall along the Cleveland Street side was added at this time as it's all built in the same style.

A possible clue to the extension's purpose may come from the house's occupants; it seems that for many years it was occupied by a succession of medical men and used as a doctor's surgery. Presumably the arched entrance was originally to allow their carriages to enter the back yard area with its adjoining coachhouse and stables, but it may also have been to allow patients to enter the premises in privacy, either arriving in their own carriage or possibly even in a horsedrawn ambulance? My 1903 Directory indicates that by then, however, the stables had been let to John Lyon & Co, ginger ale and mineral water manufacturers, whose main works were in Oldham Street, off Renshaw Street in Liverpool. Presumably the stables were used by them for the horses and carts that delivered their products on this side of the river.

I remember the old canopied bus-stop on the side of the building as I often used to catch the bus there on the way to my gran's, but I'm not sure I've got a photo of it; I'll have to have a good hunt round.

I think the second picture you're thinking about may be the well-known engraving from the Illustrated London News of a single-decker tram in front of the Congregational Chapel on the opening day of the tram system in 1860. I definitely have a copy of that somewhere, which I'll post when I find it.

Top
#684028 - 11th Apr 2012 2:59pm Re: Argyle st/Cleveland st corner queries [Re: marty99fred]
bert1 Offline

Wiki Veteran

Registered: 27th Nov 2008
Posts: 7846
Loc: tranmere
I can remember the old canopied bus stop and for some unknown reason I seem to have memories of Horses and milk carts coming out of the stables there in the early fifties, could be wrong, maybe they were just making a delivery.
_________________________
God help us,
Come yourself,
Don't send Jesus,
This is no place for children.


Bertieone.

Top
#684103 - 11th Apr 2012 6:17pm Re: Argyle st/Cleveland st corner queries [Re: derekdwc]
Norton Online   Reading

Smartchild

Registered: 29th Sep 2011
Posts: 597
Loc: Wallasey
I think I know the photographs you are after, but I haven't come across them yet.

However, in the Pleasures Past video 'Memories of Wirral in the 1940's & 50's' there is a short section around Hamilton Square at 30 minutes in. It shows a bowler hatted gentleman using the Hamilton St Post Office and then pans along the Cleveland St section of the Square to the corner where the Council offices now are, where the old Church, minus its roof, can be seen. It then cuts to the other corner, where the estate agents were, but unfortunately we can't see quite enough to get a glimpse of the shelter. I also think that a longer version of this film appears in another their video's, demonstrating some road safety do's & don'ts, which included a cyclist hanging on to a bus, getting on to a moving bus, and sitting chatting at the lights while they change a few times. I've not come across that one today, but I'll find it.

The shelter was a lean-to canopy with the wall, open at both ends. It had a glass roof with cast iron uprights and the usual tubular railings at the pavement edge. It was long enough to accomodate two busses of the time. I'm sure it survived into the hands of the MPTE.

It is interesting to see the yellow clay bricks used in the wall of the stables. They sometimes appear on buildings in Birkenhead of that time and are occasionally seen as a relief in some Wallasey buildings, but hardly anywhere else around here. There are similar bricks in some other northern towns, but the only other place I can think of that use them in large numbers is in London. Theirs are a slightly different shade, obviously from different clay pits.

The 'modern' white-faced Council building on the corner used to house the Education, Rates and Vehicle Taxation Departments for the Borough, as well as the driving test examiners. Part of the motorcycle test, as conducted in the late 60's & early 70's, involved the examiner watching the candidate ride at walking pace, by walking alongside him or her. Invariably, this was performed in Hamilton Lane, the road between the back of the stables and the Pub.

Top
#800649 - 14th Jun 2013 10:45pm Re: Argyle st/Cleveland st corner queries [Re: derekdwc]
stubbsy Offline
Beginner

Registered: 14th Jun 2013
Posts: 4
Loc: BEBINGTON
Hello
My father Donald Colley had a garage R and D Colley on the corner of Cleveland Street and Chapel Street from 1946 to 1965 I have searched in vain for a photograph Does anyone have any ideas?

Top

Moderator:  Mark 
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
The Green Eyed Girl
by granny
57 minutes 3 seconds ago
Paypal help
by venice
Today at 08:59 PM
A Little Girl Gets A Kitten
by Uffda
Today at 03:45 PM
Best Price for Scarpping my car
by Mike72
Today at 01:02 PM
Brown Bin Collections Restarting Today 17th Jan
by fish5133
Today at 09:04 AM
For Sale & Free
Wanted old cars spares or repairs
by vw_kyle
Today at 01:08 PM
Astra 1.9 diesel 06
by lansyp
Yesterday at 08:47 PM
viewsonic 22" monitor
by tommybarry
Yesterday at 03:39 PM
Childs LFC peddle bike 5 - 8 Yrs
by Pete_M
13th Jan 2017 8:41pm
Projector
by madrob
13th Jan 2017 3:35pm
Featured Member
Registered: 23rd May 2011
Posts: 347
Newest Members
Collette63, shellylou, sgjrob, pjmeaneydog, jennynoonan
12182 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
New Wirral Info
Paypal help
by venice
Today at 08:59 PM
Brown Bin Collections Restarting Today 17th Jan
by fish5133
Today at 09:04 AM
Indian/Jazz fusion music Liverpool
by paxvobiscum
15th Jan 2017 11:19am
Chinese New Year Liverpool
by paxvobiscum
15th Jan 2017 11:08am
Asbestos shed removal
by TRFCKrisTRFC
13th Jan 2017 10:51pm
News : New Topics
Secretive mega shake-up of NHS could cost 15 mil
by RUDEBOX
Yesterday at 05:58 PM
Lost Mobile Phone
by spinner1
15th Jan 2017 6:56pm
Found a mobile phone 14/01/2017 WALLASEY
by GaryFromWirral
15th Jan 2017 11:28am
Control of The Main Stream Media
by fish5133
15th Jan 2017 12:46am
Deportation Row
by granny
14th Jan 2017 12:23pm
New Enthusiast Forums
A Little Girl Gets A Kitten
by Uffda
Today at 03:45 PM
Best Price for Scarpping my car
by Mike72
Today at 01:02 PM
Diagnosis Route
by fish5133
Today at 12:10 AM
RAC ,AA v Breakdown Recovery
by fish5133
Yesterday at 08:35 PM
La La Land
by paxvobiscum
Yesterday at 02:52 PM
(Views 24hrs)Trending Newest Topics
Diagnosis Route 173
Best Price for Scarpping my car 144
A Little Girl Gets A Kitten 115
Wanted old cars spares or repairs 113
Paypal help 98
Brown Bin Collections Restarting Today 17th Jan 34
The Green Eyed Girl 22
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Tue 8:17am
Sunset Tue 4:27pm
Local Time Tue 11:31pm
WikiWirral Can . . . .
Advertising Click me
To Advertise with
Wikiwirral Click Me