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Heres my 2p and lets see how you all respond to this.

Every thread i read on here decends into what i will describe as a witch hunt. Everyone claiming the Wirral needs to be ridden of the ... of the earth by what ever means possible, causing more paranoia and fear then needs to be. Yes i wont lie things like this do happen and yes it is awful when they do happen, However one may happen here one may happen over there and the 3rd happens over that far hill there. There is no link between them and they are all spread over a great distance and are in no way related. But when you group them all together like this under one roof (thread) and add all the war stories, It makes it seem like this is happening all over the place all of the time! Therefore jazzing the situation up even more then it needs to be and doing nothing but create more paranoia and stress to people! Anyway thats my first observation.

Secondly when you all go on about what you would do to someone if they broke into your home and how the law favours the criminal and not the victim bear this in mind -

Comman Law Use Of Force says - If you have an honsetly held belief that you or another are in imminent danger, you may use such force as is reasonable and necessary to avert danger.

Now think about this, a Criminal breaks into someones house with no other intention then to obtain a laptop he can see thats been left out. He forces open a window, gains entry and begins to collect the item he has spotted. He is then confronted by the home owner whom he has disturbed. The home owner then proceeds to use violence against him. Does the Criminal not have a right to defend himself against the home owner under the above?

The Criminal dies due to injuries sustained from the home owners actions. The home owner must stand in front of a court and plead his case of Protection of his home, his property and above all his family. The Criminal in no way offerd violence to the home owner.

So the home owner can not use self defence as a reason to act. The Criminal did not have a knife or other bladed/pointed article about his person so the use of lethal force against the Criminal was not sanctioned. Assuming he could have a knife 'cause thats what kids do these days' is not a defence under law unless he pulled out a knife and threatened to use it thus confirming he had one so you would be able to justify the use of force. But in this scenario he didnt pull out a knife so therefore did not have one. But if he also had a knife on him but it stayed in his sock the whole time would that still be enough for him to claim self defence? How can the home owner claim self defence against somthing he didnt know excisted??

In response to the first comment on this thread and like many others what if you did catch someone in your garden and they then run off down the road. This is them trying to escape not confronting you, You catch upto them and then what? You trip them up, place them onto the floor and sit on them waiting for the Police to arrive? Ok fair enough. How about you push him to the floor and give him a sly kick while hes down, He then fights back to help himself escape from the situtaion and the present danger against him. Who was in the wrong? The 'criminal' has ran off and poses no danger or threat against you therefore can you act against him?

Now im not saying you cant act against him, im just saying does it always have to involve the threats of violence you are all quick to type in your keyboard warrior mannor. It just strikes me that some people on here type without realising the consequences of what you are saying.

All the above is just said for guidance and should never be acted upon or referred to, Its all based on a made up pretend scenario for example purposes. Anyway just trying to paint a bit more of that big picture that everyone these days seems to look at and ignore or just not look at in the slightest!

When they're on the floor unconscious don't forget to get the knife out the kitchen and get his fingerprints on it.
"yes mr plod he was armed!"