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#639127 - 16th Dec 2011 10:09pm Empress of Canada
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Forgotten about the Empress of Canada - good reminder thumbsup would love to see some more pics



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#639253 - 17th Dec 2011 8:10am Re: Empress of Canada [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Empress of Canada 1961.


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#639255 - 17th Dec 2011 8:29am Re: Empress of Canada [Re: bert1]
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Empress of Canada 1961.


That's the 'new' Epress of Canada which made her maiden voyage from Liverpool to Canada on 24th April 1961. The one that caught fire in the No 1 branch of Gladston Dock on 25th January 1953 was built as the Duchess of Richmond in 1928, and became the second Empress of Canada following a re-fit in 1947.


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#639258 - 17th Dec 2011 8:42am Re: Empress of Canada [Re: TRANCENTRAL]
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As a young lad I went for a few runs on the Overhead, just to get a good view of the blackend hulk of the Empress of Canada in Glastone (I think) Dock. From memory, she lay on her side for ages before she was righted.


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#639267 - 17th Dec 2011 9:01am Re: Empress of Canada [Re: ]
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It took more than a year to re-float the Empress, she was finally winched upright, after removal of masts and funnels, in March 1954 and re-floated in May of the same year. She was then towed to Genoa for breaking up.


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#639268 - 17th Dec 2011 9:02am Re: Empress of Canada [Re: ]
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#639273 - 17th Dec 2011 9:11am Re: Empress of Canada [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Brilliant ! Thanks Bert/upton.


Edited by Pinzgauer (17th Dec 2011 9:12am)

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#639321 - 17th Dec 2011 12:10pm Re: Empress of Canada [Re: ]
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Seem to remember watching the 'Empresses' in and out of the river as a child. We used to call them the 'banana boats'.

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#639336 - 17th Dec 2011 12:30pm Re: Empress of Canada [Re: diggingdeeper]
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I'm curious why she keeled over, or was she purposely scuttled to reduce risk of the fire spreading around the dock?
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#639339 - 17th Dec 2011 12:40pm Re: Empress of Canada [Re: diggingdeeper]
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From memory (scratch scratch) she keeled over due to massive amount of water poured into her to try and get to the seat of the fire. I don't think the fire was put out until she went glug-glug into the dock!

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#639341 - 17th Dec 2011 12:43pm Re: Empress of Canada [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Ta thumbsup
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#639342 - 17th Dec 2011 12:46pm Re: Empress of Canada [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Originally Posted By: diggingdeeper
I'm curious why she keeled over, or was she purposely scuttled to reduce risk of the fire spreading around the dock?


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#639346 - 17th Dec 2011 12:55pm Re: Empress of Canada [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Wow, that's comprehensive, good find thumbsup
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#639356 - 17th Dec 2011 1:28pm Re: Empress of Canada [Re: diggingdeeper]
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My Uncle served on the Empress of Canada, he was adrift for 3 days in a lifeboat before being picked up, he was found to be to young to serve !. when he reached the required age he then served in malaya.

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#639384 - 17th Dec 2011 2:18pm Re: Empress of Canada [Re: Historybook]
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My Uncle served on the Empress of Canada, he was adrift for 3 days in a lifeboat before being picked up, he was found to be to young to serve !. when he reached the required age he then served in malaya.


That would be the first Empress of Canada.

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RMS Empress of Canada (1922), a 21,517-ton 653-foot (199 m) ship built in Glasgow, Scotland; Vancouver-based ship served the Far East; served as troopship in World War II; torpedoed and sunk off Africa by an Italian submarine in 1943; 392 of 1,800 aboard perished
RMS Empress of Canada (1928), originally the Duchess of Richmond; served as troopship in World War II; renamed Empress of Canada in 1947; caught fire and capsized in Liverpool in 1953; scrapped the following year
RMS Empress of Canada (1961), transatlantic liner providing service between Canada and the United Kingdom during the summer and cruising from New York City to the Caribbean in the winter; made 121 Atlantic crossings before being sold to Carnival Cruise Lines in 1971; later Mardi Gras, and Apollo
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