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#630739 - 29th Nov 2011 5:13pm Birkenhead Ferries 1905
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I've just received from America (via e-bay) a little 32 page book of timetables/fares etc. which includes the tram timetables, some nice photographs and other stuff of interest.
When I've finished scanning it, I'll be posting some of it here.
Watch this space.
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#630751 - 29th Nov 2011 5:40pm Re: Birkenhead Ferries 1905 [Re: chriskay]
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Very good Chris, sounds really interesting, really look forward to reading it.

out of curiosity Is there any you may have regarding the industrial revolution era towards the back end? I believe that the first tram actually started in Birkenhead did it not?

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#630809 - 29th Nov 2011 7:10pm Re: Birkenhead Ferries 1905 [Re: ResearcherTony]
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First street tramway in Europe, 1860.

I've nothing from the era of the Industrial Revolution, although I'm lucky to live within a few miles of its birthplace in Coalbrookdale.
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#631126 - 30th Nov 2011 2:50pm Re: Birkenhead Ferries 1905 [Re: chriskay]
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Here's a couple of pages from the book. The book itself is only postcard size. These pages show the frequency of the Woodside ferries and of course they ran all night. I didn't know that when the goods boat wasn't running, you could take a car on the passenger boat.


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#631558 - 1st Dec 2011 12:02pm Re: Birkenhead Ferries 1905 [Re: chriskay]
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Great stuff Chris. I never realised that they allowed Motor Cars on the passenger boats. Only after the Luggage boats had stopped and on Sundays according to the blurb (p5).

A bewildering scale of charges. Note the "lavatory is provided in Room No.2 for the use of all Stall Holders" (Sheer luxury!!)

Any more pages ??

Thanks.


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#631594 - 1st Dec 2011 1:59pm Re: Birkenhead Ferries 1905 [Re: ]
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Yes, there's more to come. Wait till you see the goods ferry charges!
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#631605 - 1st Dec 2011 3:07pm Re: Birkenhead Ferries 1905 [Re: chriskay]
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Anybody looking for a job? How about being a porter at Woodside? Look at the rates of pay!!


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#631611 - 1st Dec 2011 3:28pm Re: Birkenhead Ferries 1905 [Re: chriskay]
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I too never knew they carried cars,thanks for sharing.
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#631616 - 1st Dec 2011 3:49pm Re: Birkenhead Ferries 1905 [Re: chriskay]
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I say my man. I have a bundle of shawls, one portmanteau and a bonnet box. There's a halfpenny in it for you if you take them to my carraige.





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#631623 - 1st Dec 2011 4:14pm Re: Birkenhead Ferries 1905 [Re: ]
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Look at the rates, guv'nor; three items at a penny each = 3d. (Unless any of them weighs more than 10lb., in which case it's tuppence): bring the scales, Alf, those shawls look heavy.
Interesting that the minimum charge on the Liverpool side is 3d. Bl**dy greedy scousers.
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#632163 - 3rd Dec 2011 1:02pm Re: Birkenhead Ferries 1905 [Re: chriskay]
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Here's the timetable of the Woodside goods boat and the goods charges on that service and from New Ferry/Rock Ferry. Although there was a separate goods boat from Woodside to Liverpool, on the New Ferry/Rock Ferry route, goods were carried on the passenger boat.
Note that certain dangerous goods were prohibited: if you were caught carrying nitroglycerine, you'd get a large fine and the nitro. would be thrown overboard!!


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#632169 - 3rd Dec 2011 1:12pm Re: Birkenhead Ferries 1905 [Re: chriskay]
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Looking at these goods charges raises a problem.
Our mate Fred has died in New Ferry. Being a true scouser, he wanted to be buried in Liverpool and it's up to us to get him there.
Problem: do we grit our teeth and pay ten bob to take him on the New Ferry boat, or do we hire a handcart and wheel him to Rock Ferry and pay five bob, or do we take him all the way to Woodside and pay half a crown?
What isn't clear is whether, if we use the Woodside luggage boat, the charge for the four of us bearers is included or not. I suspect not, in which case, that will be another fourpence.

Answers on a postcard please.
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#632185 - 3rd Dec 2011 1:39pm Re: Birkenhead Ferries 1905 [Re: chriskay]
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A real minefield of charges there! Pity the guy on the Landing Stage checking the goods against what is payable.

If I was one of Fred's relatives, I'd be folding him in two and bunging him inside a harmonium! That way it only costs a 1/-d.

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#632205 - 3rd Dec 2011 2:15pm Re: Birkenhead Ferries 1905 [Re: ]
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Trouble with that, Pinz, is that with rigor mortis you'd never fold him.
Maybe the best bet would to be to prop him between two mates and "walk" him on; on a morning rush hour boat you'd probably get away with it, and only tuppence from New Ferry.
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#633631 - 6th Dec 2011 7:38pm Re: Birkenhead Ferries 1905 [Re: chriskay]
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