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#596056 - 7th Oct 2011 12:02am St Andrews church
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whats with the names on the wall? also little loo loo grave?
Nelsons heroes ? connection ?


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#596091 - 7th Oct 2011 12:23am Re: St Andrews church [Re: TRANCENTRAL]
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#596172 - 7th Oct 2011 6:49am Re: St Andrews church [Re: _Ste_]
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St Andrews, Bebington.

Little loo loo died in St Kilda, Australia. (google) don't know if thats on the headstone.
Nelsons Heroes, best guess would be, someone wounded at Trafalgar and died ashore.
Names carved on church walls, i remember reading somewhere this was done when families couldn't afford headstones.
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#596234 - 7th Oct 2011 9:51am Re: St Andrews church [Re: TRANCENTRAL]
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yes where she died is on the head stone but it would of taken wks to bring her body all the way to england by boat so why? and if shes that important why no proper name or surname?
and who paid for it?
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#596240 - 7th Oct 2011 10:22am Re: St Andrews church [Re: rocks]
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Is there evidence on the headstone that Little loo loo is female. If she/he sailed from these shores on a ship then they must have thought it appropriate to bring the body back. Perhaps that is a proper name, maybe from foreign heritage. Any photos of the headstone.
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#596241 - 7th Oct 2011 10:26am Re: St Andrews church [Re: rocks]
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I believe that some of the graffiti came from the school that was sited there fron 1791 to 1827.Agree with Bert though that some of the carving would be for those who couldn't afford a headstone (and dates after the school).

"The parish school which began in the belfry, moved in 1791 to a built-on vestry at the East corner.Indentations in what is now the outside wall show where the pupils sharpened their slate-pencils, though the other walls of this room have long been demolished."

http://www.standrewsbebington.org.uk/about-us/history/

The Little Loo grave reads
Little Loo,/Died at St Kilda,/Near Melbourne,/Victoria, /December 20th 1853.

The other is in memory of Charles Corlett , 'One of Nelson's Heros'

Source:"St Andrew's Bebington" by Richrd Lancelyn Green

Near that wall is a gravestone for some of the Bather (as in Bathers the tyre place on the New Chester Road) family who I have in my family tree. Unfortunately my family's (Dodd) headstones were removed when the churchyard was redesigned and renovated in May 1968 which I'm not very happy about (although I do have the records of the monuments

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#596271 - 7th Oct 2011 11:23am Re: St Andrews church [Re: TRANCENTRAL]
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some of the dates carved in the wall go right back to the 1600s so thats before the school (pic of headstone up soon)
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#596291 - 7th Oct 2011 11:42am Re: St Andrews church [Re: inflatablebone]
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Originally Posted By: inflatablebone
headstones were removed when the churchyard was redesigned and renovated in May 1968 which I'm not very happy about (although I do have the records of the monuments


Are the MI's available for the stones that were removed? I've often wandered around the graveyard looking for stones of my OXTON family,, there is only one left now, just around the corner from the graffiti.

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#596355 - 7th Oct 2011 1:36pm Re: St Andrews church [Re: TRANCENTRAL]
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Bebington family History group have this information

We have recently completed transcribing the Memorial Inscriptions at St. Andrew's and have produced a book that also contains photographs of all the current headstones.
The book also incorporates those transcriptions recorded by the S.O.G. in 1968, before the headstones were removed.
There is a copy of the book at Bebington Library, Alderley Edge and our own library.
The book has now been produced on CD and is available for purchase through the usual channels.
NEW! The BebingtonGroup will do lookups and and provide extracts from the book for the following fees : Monumental Inscription only £1.20; Inscription plus pictures of church & churchyard, plot plan, and, if available, picture of grave £2.50.
Click on the "Group Leader" link above and email us with the details of the ancestor you wish us to trace. We will reply and let you know if we can locate a grave.

Alan

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#596387 - 7th Oct 2011 3:05pm Re: St Andrews church [Re: alan128]
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Originally Posted By: alan128
Bebington family history group have this information Alan


Excuse my asking, do you mean The Cheshire Family History Society, Bebington Group? (I'm a member of the FHSC).

Or is this a new group?

(edit)
Ah just checked the FHSC and saw the CD for Sale, thanks Alan.


Edited by OxtonHill (7th Oct 2011 3:08pm)

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#596413 - 7th Oct 2011 3:53pm Re: St Andrews church [Re: OxtonHill]
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Re Charles Corlett
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By coincidence I have been tracing a hero of Trafalgar. He was born on the
Isle of Man, went to Portsmouth and returned to Liverpool around 1841 in
retirement. In 1861 he was still in Liverpool - but in 1862, nearly ninety, he
turns up in Birkenhead overlooking the same patch of water previously mentioned.

Yesterday I found his obituary copied as follows :--

Here is the obituary for Charles Corlett.

The identity of the Nelson hero who lies buried in the Churchyard at
Bebigton. The following obituary appeared in the Liverpool Mercury,
Saturday, 1st. February, 1862 (page 5, column 6) :--

“Corlett – Jan. 25.

At the residence of his son, No 7 Wellington Street, Rock Ferry.
Mr. Charles Corlett, aged 91. The deceased was one of Admiral Lord
Nelson’s heroes, and was at the Battle of the Nile 1798, Cpoenhagen
1801, Trafalgar 1805. Was at the siege of Rangoon in the East Indies;
was in several cutting out expeditions, and was several times taken
prisoner and made his escape; and what is remarkable, the deceased only
received one shot wound in the thigh, during the whole of his career.
On Wednesday last the deceased was interred with all naval honours
by the kind permission of Capt. Inglefield, of her Majesty’s ship,
MAJESTIC, about 60 of the crew, consisting of marines, seamen, naval
volunteers in procession, bearing him to the graveyard, Bebington, on
a field piece belonging to the ship.”
"

I lifted this off ancestry "copyright"/thanks to to Ricky Cooper

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#596706 - 8th Oct 2011 8:32am Re: St Andrews church [Re: TRANCENTRAL]
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thanx for all the info guys smile
defo going to be going back for another visit and to take more pics so if anyone would like me to look at or photo anything while im there just say wink
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#597001 - 8th Oct 2011 11:07pm Re: St Andrews church [Re: TRANCENTRAL]
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pics of the little loo loo headstone and nelsons hero.


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#597061 - 9th Oct 2011 7:07am Re: St Andrews church [Re: TRANCENTRAL]
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Thanks for the pics TC.

Referring to Inflatablebone's post (Nelsons Hero)
Reading elsewhere it is questionable whether Charles Corlett was at Trafalgar, apparently research done by others can't trace him on the Trafalgar Roll, of course this wouldn't lessen his hero status having been present at other campaigns. Any evidence to contradict their findings.
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#597082 - 9th Oct 2011 10:16am Re: St Andrews church [Re: bert1]
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Charles Corlett does not appear on the The Ayshford Trafalgar Roll which is more comprehensive than the PRO Trafalgar Roll.

Nor does he appear on the index to the commissioned sea officers of the Royal Navy of the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars 1793-1815.

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