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The time has come my friends to turn the clock back and re-introduce the death penalty. We seem to be restricted by do gooders and European hypocrisy. Our sentences for Murder are the laughing stock of the world. These mindless morons who have put fear into our societies need stopping. The feral gangs that roam around need breaking up. Impose curfews for under 16's. Make car insurance so high that young kids need a proper job to pay for it. Make sentences for drink and dangerous driving so severe that you would be scared to move the needle on your car. Don't be afraid to have your say. Two horrific crimes in 48 hours (RIP kid). Worsening crime and cuts to the Police can only lead to a slippery slope. Trust Politicians at your peril. You're speaking as though you're speaking for the population. I don't share any of your views at all. The death penalty is going backwards. I'm surprised you said 'Don't be afraid to have your say' - is freedom of speech included in your policy? How about manipulation of the news that leads people to believing the shite they publish?
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The most prolific hangman this country ever had was Albert Pierrepoint, between 1932 and 1956 he hung between 500/600 people. If hanging was a deterrent he would not of still been carrying out his trade in 1933, the very fact that he was and for many years after proves if nothing else one thing, its not a deterrent. On saying that, it is the perfect solution to stop murderers re- offending, so is a life meaning life prison sentence and thats what should be re- introduced.
Man has always killed man and until there are scientific advances that are able to predict who is likely to do so, it will continue. The best we can hope for is removing them from society forever , where they can do no further harm.
Longer and heavier sentences for other misdemeanors I'm all in favour for, would 20 years for drink driving put a stop to it, perhaps, won't know until its tried, 20 years for a house burglar, a street mugger etc, won't know until its tried.
One thing has got to be remembered, no whinging when we have to finance it.
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There is an ever growing pocket of society that no longer has respect or value life itself. We are unfortunately heavily influenced by the 'bullshit' media that does nothing but promote unhealthy living and lies. We follow suit with the US time and time again. These kids who sell drugs and get involved with gangs are only doing what they see on TV. There is no deterrent as they only get more educated inside, to both education and crime. For severe crimes were we have 100% evidence or an admission the sentence should be death, reoffending would be erradicated and we wouldn't have rooms taken up in over crowded prisons by people who don't deserve to be on this planet. Penalties need to be harsher for carrying weapons, violence, selling or producing drugs. We have drifted away from loving each other because 'Call of duty' doesn't teach you that. Shooting someone in the face isn't cool, when you are holding half of your friends head in your hand and he's breathing his last it isn't fun, watching a teenager jump off a block of flats because he's been so high that normal life is depressing isn't entertaining. Those who say they can walk down the street with no fear need to speak to people of an older age. Burglaries are up, violent crime is up, reported crime may be down but this is due to lack of confidence in the Police. I'll happily stand at the gallows and wave them all off, no room for ... in my town. Love thy neighbour, but then again you probably don't know who they are.
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What about people 'accidentally' killing someone?
Ie: Joe bloggs gets into a fight with Billy bonehead and kills him with one punch.
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Im 26 and have been driving for 7 years and I still pay 1100 per year which is far too high. Wow... what do you drive!? I'm 25, been driving 8 years and I pay half of that.
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What about people 'accidentally' killing someone?
I accidentally killed someone in 2003. I'm quite glad they don't have the death penalty for accidental death.
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There is an ever growing pocket of society that no longer has respect or value life itself. We are unfortunately heavily influenced by the 'bullshit' media that does nothing but promote unhealthy living and lies. We follow suit with the US time and time again. These kids who sell drugs and get involved with gangs are only doing what they see on TV. There is no deterrent as they only get more educated inside, to both education and crime. For severe crimes were we have 100% evidence or an admission the sentence should be death, reoffending would be erradicated and we wouldn't have rooms taken up in over crowded prisons by people who don't deserve to be on this planet. Penalties need to be harsher for carrying weapons, violence, selling or producing drugs. We have drifted away from loving each other because 'Call of duty' doesn't teach you that. Shooting someone in the face isn't cool, when you are holding half of your friends head in your hand and he's breathing his last it isn't fun, watching a teenager jump off a block of flats because he's been so high that normal life is depressing isn't entertaining. Those who say they can walk down the street with no fear need to speak to people of an older age. Burglaries are up, violent crime is up, reported crime may be down but this is due to lack of confidence in the Police. I'll happily stand at the gallows and wave them all off, no room for ... in my town. Love thy neighbour, but then again you probably don't know who they are. Where do you get these facts from? It sounds like it's taken straight from a Daily Mail column. The only real problem on the Wirral is the typical chav who will never work or contribute to society and only wants to take. Call me what you like but I don't have a problem with chavs killing chavs. I have no control of how they are policed, I don't care at all for these people. I wouldn't want to line up to see them hung though, that's the type of witch-hunt society the Daily Mail loves to promote.
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Weather anyone is in favour of the reintroduction of then death penatly or not, it will never happen in tis country.
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There is an ever growing pocket of society that no longer has respect or value life itself. We are unfortunately heavily influenced by the 'bullshit' media that does nothing but promote unhealthy living and lies. We follow suit with the US time and time again. These kids who sell drugs and get involved with gangs are only doing what they see on TV. There is no deterrent as they only get more educated inside, to both education and crime. For severe crimes were we have 100% evidence or an admission the sentence should be death, reoffending would be erradicated and we wouldn't have rooms taken up in over crowded prisons by people who don't deserve to be on this planet. Penalties need to be harsher for carrying weapons, violence, selling or producing drugs. We have drifted away from loving each other because 'Call of duty' doesn't teach you that. Shooting someone in the face isn't cool, when you are holding half of your friends head in your hand and he's breathing his last it isn't fun, watching a teenager jump off a block of flats because he's been so high that normal life is depressing isn't entertaining. Those who say they can walk down the street with no fear need to speak to people of an older age. Burglaries are up, violent crime is up, reported crime may be down but this is due to lack of confidence in the Police. I'll happily stand at the gallows and wave them all off, no room for ... in my town. Love thy neighbour, but then again you probably don't know who they are. Where do you get these facts from? It sounds like it's taken straight from a Daily Mail column. The only real problem on the Wirral is the typical chav who will never work or contribute to society and only wants to take. Call me what you like but I don't have a problem with chavs killing chavs. I have no control of how they are policed, I don't care at all for these people. I wouldn't want to line up to see them hung though, that's the type of witch-hunt society the Daily Mail loves to promote. What an ignorant comment. Chavs killing chavs? By the sound of things the boy who was stabbed was special needs harmless and a nice lad in general so where did you get that he was a chav from? If you don't care about it keep it to yourself, It's ignorant self opinionated people like you that think they know it all that make me sick!
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Chavs killing chavs? By the sound of things the boy who was stabbed was special needs harmless and a nice lad in general so where did you get that he was a chav from? If you don't care about it keep it to yourself, It's ignorant self opinionated people like you that think they know it all that make me sick!
Quite. From what I have heard it sounds like chav kills quiet, innocent and decent boy.
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What about people 'accidentally' killing someone?
Ie: Joe bloggs gets into a fight with Billy bonehead and kills him with one punch.
In the eyes of the Law, you take your victim as you find him/her. That's the gamble you take.
Sometimes Police Officers give more than just speeding tickets!
It�s hard to be fit as a fiddle when you�re shaped like a cello!
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What about people 'accidentally' killing someone?
Ie: Joe bloggs gets into a fight with Billy bonehead and kills him with one punch.
In the eyes of the Law, you take your victim as you find him/her. That's the gamble you take. Not necessarily. It's all far too complicated for me to get into at 1:30pm with a hangover, maybe GMF will want to, but my legal studies tell me otherwise.
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My thoughts are that one young life has sadly ended and another one ruined. Two sets of family and friends have a lifetime of anguish ahead of them. My thoughts and prayers are with both family s.I am from Cleveland St and have many friends from the area who will as individuals echo all the views expressed on Wiki, this is mine.
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What an ignorant comment.
Chavs killing chavs? By the sound of things the boy who was stabbed was special needs harmless and a nice lad in general so where did you get that he was a chav from? If you don't care about it keep it to yourself, It's ignorant self opinionated people like you that think they know it all that make me sick! Speaking of ignorant comments, Littlebear never said anything about the kid that was stabbed on corpy road. He said chavs killing chavs - he could have been referring to any of the chavs that walk around with sharp pointy things on the wirral. plox 2 lurn 2 read. Plus let's face it, if you saw the pic of the kid that was stabbed he sure did look like a chav.
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if you saw the pic of the kid that was stabbed he sure did look like a chav. I don't normally disagree with you but in this instance, I'd say he looked more like a vulnerable kid.
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