Welcome to WikiWirral, sharing is what we do best.
Forum Stats
12137 Members
65 Forums
72392 Topics
976109 Posts
32 posts in the last 24hrs
Max Online: 7831 @ 8th Apr 2013 4:18pm
Who's Online - Click Me
48 registered (anniebo28, 9 invisible), 1075 Guests and 213 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


(Views 7days)This Weeks Most Read
Wirral Globe 627
HMT Lancastria 517
Another Big Waste Fire in Liverpool. 453
Name help 413
Vet help 388
Vet help 310
Another tree down on Arrowe park Road? 227
Talk Talk Security Breach 202
Mobile mechanic needed to fit a wishbone 179
That was kept a bit quiet? 178
New General Forums
Lib/dems rule the day
by JimmyG
2nd Dec 2016 10:59pm
Daft funny joke
by venice
2nd Dec 2016 5:54pm
We dont learn much.
by venice
1st Dec 2016 9:22pm
Freegle
by venice
1st Dec 2016 6:36pm
New Wirral History
Name help
by Paternoster21
3rd Dec 2016 8:03am
HMT Lancastria
by granny
2nd Dec 2016 11:38pm
Cubitts Holland and Hannen
by fish5133
27th Nov 2016 5:38pm
Fire station
by chris7777
22nd Nov 2016 12:24pm
Buy a house in Greasby for 12s a week - in 1935
by yoller
6th Oct 2016 6:56pm
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
fireworks on the Mersey last night
Hadlow train station
Topic Replies
Vet help
by muzzy2
Today at 05:02 PM
HMT Lancastria
by cools
Today at 04:59 PM
Micro desktop PC
by anniebo28
Today at 02:24 PM
Talk Talk Security Breach
by Gibbo
Today at 01:15 PM
RIP Peter Vaughan
by Gibbo
Today at 10:56 AM
Another Big Waste Fire in Liverpool.
by Gibbo
Today at 10:53 AM
Blank Page : Offline
by Mark
Today at 09:23 AM
Iphone 5s, Grey, near mint condition, 50
by anniebo28
Yesterday at 09:39 PM
Mobile mechanic needed to fit a wishbone
by anniebo28
Yesterday at 07:30 PM
December
M Tu W Th F Sa Su
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
Recent Posts : What's On ?
Wirral TUC Meeting re Update on Wallasey CLP Suspe
by RUDEBOX
30th Nov 2016 9:16pm
World Aids Day Event 2016. Liverpool
by RUDEBOX
30th Nov 2016 9:05pm
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#579471 - 9th Sep 2011 7:09pm how old is this road surface?
derekdwc Offline


Forum Veteran

Registered: 13th Oct 2008
Posts: 4945
Loc: Birkenhead
how old is this road surface?
Just behind where the Woodside Hotel used to be.
Was this how some of the roads were originally laid or could it have been laid like this for the benefit of horses when there was a stable there?


Attachments: Viewing Permissions May Apply. Click Me
long view[1600x1200].JPG

S1054087 [1600x1200].JPG

S1054088 [1600x1200].JPG




Edited by derekdwc (9th Sep 2011 7:10pm)

Top
Wirral History Info Advertising
Click me for more Information......

* * * Superior Heating by Stephen Foster (Dodie) * * *
Now Advertise with WikiWirral.
WikiWirral stats 35,000 Page Views a Day +500 Search Engines.. Click Me
#579491 - 9th Sep 2011 8:15pm Re: how old is this road surface? [Re: derekdwc]
Moonstar Offline

Forum Addict

Registered: 2nd Jul 2011
Posts: 1238
Loc: Wirral
http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?13310-Cobbled-Streets-and-Areas-of-Liverpool

A thread from a Liverpool forum which may shine a light.

It has been said, by archeologists, that cobble roads were being made in Britain before the Romans. The curvature of the road allows water to flow away and the cobbles prevent ruts forming and give horses a better grip. Although noisy under horse and cart, etc, straw would be laid where peace and quiet were required.

Top
#579493 - 9th Sep 2011 8:16pm Re: how old is this road surface? [Re: derekdwc]
dizdazdoz Offline

Wise One

Registered: 17th Jan 2010
Posts: 866
Loc: Here
No ides derek, however after carefull thought I can confirm it looks smoother than the roads lately :-)

Hope you find out the answer, my guess would be for horses but it's a guess.


Edited by dizdazdoz (9th Sep 2011 8:16pm)

Top
#580089 - 10th Sep 2011 10:17pm Re: how old is this road surface? [Re: derekdwc]
derekdwc Offline


Forum Veteran

Registered: 13th Oct 2008
Posts: 4945
Loc: Birkenhead
Noticed these at the main Birkenhead Park entrance and wondered if they were originals from when the park was built


Attachments: Viewing Permissions May Apply. Click Me
cobbles into park [1600x1200].JPG

cobbles [1600x1200].JPG

cobbles2 [1600x1200].JPG



Top
#580102 - 10th Sep 2011 10:54pm Re: how old is this road surface? [Re: derekdwc]
_Ste_ Offline


Wiki Master

Registered: 7th Aug 2005
Posts: 15985
Loc: New Brighton
There are some of these on duke st near the dock, people keep stealing them.
_________________________


http://www.youtube.com/user/stetopop

Top
#580327 - 11th Sep 2011 11:49am Re: how old is this road surface? [Re: _Ste_]
Helles Offline
Wise One

Registered: 28th May 2010
Posts: 887
Loc: Wirral
When I was a kid, half the streets were cobbles. If you dig under the present tarmac, most of them are still there, some with tram lines.

On very hot days we would play with the bubbling tar that was between them and get battered for coming in covered in the stuff. smile

Top
#580391 - 11th Sep 2011 4:50pm Re: how old is this road surface? [Re: Helles]
chriskay Offline
Forum Veteran

Registered: 25th Oct 2007
Posts: 4868
Loc: shropshire
Just for clarification, cobbles are the rounded ones, as in the first pics, although they can also be larger. The squared off ones, as at the Park Entrance, are setts. Roadways were almost exclusively made from granite setts, although wooden ones were also used. They gave a flat but often slippery surface.
_________________________
Carpe diem.

Top
#580402 - 11th Sep 2011 5:19pm Re: how old is this road surface? [Re: _Ste_]
derekdwc Offline


Forum Veteran

Registered: 13th Oct 2008
Posts: 4945
Loc: Birkenhead
Thanks chriskay for that info

Originally Posted By: _Ste_
There are some of these on duke st near the dock, people keep stealing them.


Noticed this one in the Masonic Hall.
Actually was told these are specially ordered pieces of rock (granite) which they order which are called rough and smooth and when someone joins the masons they are given a rough one and told to take it home and just using a hammer and chisel make it into a smooth one


Attachments: Viewing Permissions May Apply. Click Me
sett [1600x1200].JPG



Top
#580450 - 11th Sep 2011 6:55pm Re: how old is this road surface? [Re: derekdwc]
bert1 Offline

Wiki Veteran

Registered: 27th Nov 2008
Posts: 7827
Loc: tranmere
If i can just add, both types are cobbles, as Chris says, outside the park entrance, they are granite cobble setts, setts being more uniform in size and shape, the cobbles in the first pic are Duckstone cobble.
_________________________
God help us,
Come yourself,
Don't send Jesus,
This is no place for children.


Bertieone.

Top
#580453 - 11th Sep 2011 7:04pm Re: how old is this road surface? [Re: derekdwc]
derekdwc Offline


Forum Veteran

Registered: 13th Oct 2008
Posts: 4945
Loc: Birkenhead
Wonder if there is any connection to a cobbler?
You'd think a person who laid cobbles would be so named


Edited by derekdwc (11th Sep 2011 7:05pm)

Top
#580459 - 11th Sep 2011 7:10pm Re: how old is this road surface? [Re: derekdwc]
_Ste_ Offline


Wiki Master

Registered: 7th Aug 2005
Posts: 15985
Loc: New Brighton
yes thats the type that are by the docks derek.

i`ve never noticed that old telephone box near the park entrance too, not many of those around smile
_________________________


http://www.youtube.com/user/stetopop

Top
#581334 - 13th Sep 2011 8:32am Re: how old is this road surface? [Re: derekdwc]
mindplayer Offline
Addict

Registered: 19th Aug 2008
Posts: 220
Loc: Sydney, Australia
I was a Street Mason(flagger) back in the sixties for Birkenhead Council and did some work on cobbles around Laird St. Buggers to work with. In the older parts of town they were generally found at intersections. Did not do much work as they were virtually maintenance free. I only did a little bit thank God. Did some work on the granite kerb and guttering(some of it 10-15ft long and about 12inches deep and 6 inches wide) now that was hard work. There used to acres of it up at the council depot at Flaybrick. No cranes in those days all loaded and unloaded by hand. Thank fully cutting them was fairly easy. Must be why I have this problem with my stomach muscles.

Top
#643515 - 28th Dec 2011 3:34pm Re: how old is this road surface? [Re: Helles]
derekdwc Offline


Forum Veteran

Registered: 13th Oct 2008
Posts: 4945
Loc: Birkenhead
Originally Posted By: Helles
When I was a kid, half the streets were cobbles. If you dig under the present tarmac, most of them are still there, some with tram lines.

On very hot days we would play with the bubbling tar that was between them and get battered for coming in covered in the stuff. smile


Was it like the street I lived in.
The front doors always open so the kids were always in and out every 5 minutes


Attachments: Viewing Permissions May Apply. Click Me
David on Billys bike lighter.jpg




Edited by derekdwc (28th Dec 2011 3:37pm)

Top

Moderator:  Mark 
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Talk Talk Security Breach
by fish5133
Yesterday at 06:19 PM
Mobile mechanic needed to fit a wishbone
by anniebo28
6th Dec 2016 7:13pm
Vet help
by colin86
6th Dec 2016 6:25pm
Another tree down on Arrowe park Road?
by Davefabo
6th Dec 2016 11:08am
Game shocking prices!!!
by eddtheduck
5th Dec 2016 4:55pm
For Sale & Free
Micro desktop PC
by anniebo28
02:24 PM
Iphone 5s, Grey, near mint condition, 50
by anniebo28
07:40 PM
Roberts Concerto 2 CD Player For Visually Impaired
by Tranquil
6th Dec 2016 10:05pm
Gaming chair
by monsterz4
6th Dec 2016 8:27pm
MIG welder
by anniebo28
6th Dec 2016 1:34am
Featured Member
Registered: 21st Jul 2009
Posts: 1444
Newest Members
lucyw, BarbaraL, SherryLover, missyb, DavidSharpe
12137 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
New Wirral Info
Gymnastics coaches needed.
by margy
3rd Dec 2016 9:28pm
Wirral Globe
by locomotive
1st Dec 2016 6:25pm
Wirral TUC Meeting re Update on Wallasey CLP Suspe
by RUDEBOX
30th Nov 2016 9:16pm
World Aids Day Event 2016. Liverpool
by RUDEBOX
30th Nov 2016 9:05pm
A job. Company not named.
by venice
30th Nov 2016 6:30pm
News : New Topics
RIP Peter Vaughan
by diggingdeeper
04:22 AM
That was kept a bit quiet?
by venice
6th Dec 2016 11:25am
Another tree down on Arrowe park Road?
by Davefabo
6th Dec 2016 11:08am
Bunchems Xmas present warning
by venice
6th Dec 2016 9:28am
Another Big Waste Fire in Liverpool.
by Wally1
4th Dec 2016 10:24am
New Enthusiast Forums
Talk Talk Security Breach
by fish5133
06:19 PM
Mobile mechanic needed to fit a wishbone
by anniebo28
6th Dec 2016 7:13pm
Vet help
by colin86
6th Dec 2016 6:25pm
Game shocking prices!!!
by eddtheduck
5th Dec 2016 4:55pm
54 plate renault clio 3rd brake light
by Mike72
1st Dec 2016 12:52pm
(Views 24hrs)Trending Newest Topics
Vet help 310
Talk Talk Security Breach 202
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Thu 8:15am
Sunset Thu 3:53pm
Local Time Thu 6:21pm
WikiWirral Can . . . .