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#560724 - 12th Aug 2011 9:53am New Brighton Seafront Lido plans are scrapped !!!
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Quote from the Wirral Globe - link underneath.

'PLANS to build a private health and fitness club complete with lido as part of New Brighton’s regeneration have been scrapped – to make way for a children’s play area.

Neptune Developments have confirmed that the original idea to create a new health club and outdoor swimming pool, will not come to fruition.

Instead in its place will be a large-scale children’s soft play area, while the proposed lido will be a splash pool for youngsters.'

Wirral Globe Article here


Quote from Councillor's blog and link:

'You may, or may not be aware but Neptune have had considerable difficulty in getting an organisation to take over and operate the health & fitness facility on the new development. Plan B was always to have a top notch children’s soft play area, probably one of the best in the country.
After much deliberation, the decision has been made to forge ahead with this option and a report is being prepared for Cabinet in early September.
The proposed lido is now likely to become a shallow splash pool facility, suitable for all ages which has the additional benefit of becoming an ice rink during the winter months.

Councillor Sue Taylor's Blog

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#560725 - 12th Aug 2011 9:58am Re: New Brighton Seafront Lido plans are scrapped !!! [Re: NewBrighton]
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I'm sure Adventureland are gonna be happy about that!

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#560726 - 12th Aug 2011 9:59am Re: New Brighton Seafront Lido plans are scrapped !!! [Re: NewBrighton]
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What a shame. I guess we'll have to carry on going all the way to Nantwich to enjoy their lido.

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#560731 - 12th Aug 2011 10:17am Re: New Brighton Seafront Lido plans are scrapped !!! [Re: Gibbo]
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Originally Posted By: Gibbo
What a shame. I guess we'll have to carry on going all the way to Nantwich to enjoy their lido.


We already have two soft play centres that I know of, one at the Seacombe Ferry Terminal, been a while since I've been there but assume it's still there and a large one at Adventureland!!!

Given that Adventureland caters for smaller children with their own softplay centre and small fairground with kiddy rides and now the new development will cater for small children, what will the teenagers have?? and how does ANOTHER soft play centre enhance the area???

Gibbo's response is exactly what other potential visitors to the area will think, why bother coming when we can go somewhere else........

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#560737 - 12th Aug 2011 10:34am Re: New Brighton Seafront Lido plans are scrapped !!! [Re: NewBrighton]
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Hmmm, kind of like the idea of a splash pool for the little ones but hate that the older kids wont get a lido, the pool would of bought in a lot of revenue for the town and it would of been nice to have something to rival birkenheads Europa.

Totally agree about "another soft play area!" Theres also Monkey house in Manor road and the (excuse me if I get the name wrong) Derby Pool (?) also have a soft play area dont they.

Why dont they ask residents what we need! My daughter and friends have to travel into Moreton or Aintree to go skateboarding/bmxing as we only have "the bowl" at tower grounds - which is as it sounds, a bowl, totally usuitable for the amount of kids that want to use it. Now bear in mind that these kids arent the hooligans that cause crap they're kids with a hobby and they just want a suitable place to practice in without being in peoples way. How hard would it be to build another skate/bmx park similar to the one in Moreton.

Even a free playground would be more suitable for the area than another soft playarea which is going to steal business from already long long established places.

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#560742 - 12th Aug 2011 10:42am Re: New Brighton Seafront Lido plans are scrapped !!! [Re: NewBrighton]
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they should be looking at what people would most benefit from that we have missing locally.

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#560757 - 12th Aug 2011 10:57am Re: New Brighton Seafront Lido plans are scrapped !!! [Re: NewBrighton]
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Would an outdoor pool become a white elephant like the pools previously at New Brighton and Harrison Drive? They were ok the odd day in the summer when it was warm but not used much at other times.

What facilities do teenagers want these days, and does the local authority take into account their views, and have the means to set-up and maintain with paid staff and volunteers whatever is given the go-ahead?

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#560771 - 12th Aug 2011 11:07am Re: New Brighton Seafront Lido plans are scrapped !!! [Re: MediKated]
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Originally Posted By: MediKated
. How hard would it be to build another skate/bmx park similar to the one in Moreton.

Even a free playground would be more suitable for the area than another soft playarea which is going to steal business from already long long established places.


The area that the site is built on was regularly used a lot by young teens skate boarding and BMX biking. Surely there was a BIG clue there.
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#560777 - 12th Aug 2011 11:15am Re: New Brighton Seafront Lido plans are scrapped !!! [Re: NewBrighton]
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There already is a bmx thing in New Brighton so there's no need for another one.

I didn't see the point of an outdoor pool, but I was looking forward to having a gym of some description close by. They would have been better having an indoor pool, especially if Guinea Gap is to close.

What we don't need down here is more stuff for kids! The only plus point to having more kids crap is that it's down the other end so hopefully will keep them away from this end raftl

JUST HURRY UP AND OPEN BLOODY MORRISONS yipee
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#560780 - 12th Aug 2011 11:20am Re: New Brighton Seafront Lido plans are scrapped !!! [Re: Wench]
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Originally Posted By: Wench
There already is a bmx thing in New Brighton so there's no need for another one.

I didn't see the point of an outdoor pool, but I was looking forward to having a gym of some description close by. They would have been better having an indoor pool, especially if Guinea Gap is to close.

What we don't need down here is more stuff for kids! The only plus point to having more kids crap is that it's down the other end so hopefully will keep them away from this end raftl

JUST HURRY UP AND OPEN BLOODY MORRISONS yipee


Where is there a bmx thing? Do you mean the bowl at tower grounds that I already mentioned?

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#560782 - 12th Aug 2011 11:21am Re: New Brighton Seafront Lido plans are scrapped !!! [Re: NewBrighton]
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Yes. I didn't see you mention it as I just skimmed over the posts. I think the problem is, no matter how big a bmx/skateboard thing they build, it won't be big enough. There was a massive one built not far from where I lived in Cambridge and it was very soon outgrown. That has metal and wooden ramps including an approximately 8' quarter pipe, 6' spine, 5' jump box, 6' roll-in, 4ft quarter pipe, flat bank, a fun box and a grind box. They are still asking for more ramps etc.


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#560783 - 12th Aug 2011 11:24am Re: New Brighton Seafront Lido plans are scrapped !!! [Re: Wench]
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Its really not suitable hun, its pitifully small for the amount of kids that are wanting to use it and its not very suitable for skateboarders, it really needs expanding or something else built for them.

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#560786 - 12th Aug 2011 11:29am Re: New Brighton Seafront Lido plans are scrapped !!! [Re: NewBrighton]
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I can't see them doing it as it's only for a "minority" of people. I agree that thankfully they're not the usual kind of feral louts we get round here and it is a shame there isn't more for them, but I have a feeling that if it won't bring the money into the area, they won't be interested.
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#560804 - 12th Aug 2011 12:09pm Re: New Brighton Seafront Lido plans are scrapped !!! [Re: NewBrighton]
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Yes somethink should of been done for the teens they have had nothing round hear for years, everything is fast food and shops, the oldies have there bingos, play grounds for the younger kids.

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#560844 - 12th Aug 2011 1:39pm Re: New Brighton Seafront Lido plans are scrapped !!! [Re: NewBrighton]
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The oldies have their bingo????? JC

Agree that there should be somewhere for the skateboarders and BMXers to break their necks in isolation. If they need more ramps etc. then build them, it keeps them off the streets and doing it in public places where they are liable to injure pensioners on their way to bingo.
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