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Yes and unfortunately we still have a number of people of British soil that don't deserve to be here;

http://www.murderuk.com/index.html

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If its enshrined in law as a maximum penalty for certain crimes, it may make someone somewhere think twice (which could save one life); but I see what you mean, it has to be used to set a precident.

That opens up a whole new can of worms, would any person mad/stupid enough to murder someone, actually be deterred by the death penalty. I'd like to think so, but those that would, usually murder because they somehow believe they won't get caught (in which case, they would believe they have nothing to fear from the death penalty).

Atm, the government is having enough of a hard time trying to bring back the old "an Englishmans house is his castle" legislation, which they do, to their credit, seem to be managing, but this is in the face of much pressure and media scrutiny from people who oppose this sort of law; I think it would be nigh on impossible to bring in a law such as capital punishment, without restructing the entire criminal justic system altogether (which thanks predominantly to the EU, and partly to labour, now works soley in the best interests of the prisoner). I can't see any bill getting through the commons at this moment in time, nevermind the lords. It is certainly in no major parties manifesto or ideology that I can think of?

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History has proven that capital punishment is no deterrent. The only deterrent i can think of is the nuclear bomb, used twice and no more world wars, thats another debate for another time though.


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Originally Posted by bert1
I'll ask the question i always ask, what if you hang the wrong person?


Too many innocent people were executed so for that reason a definite'no'.

Having visited prisons for six years and having had a convicted murderer living with me for a year on release,cases are not just cut and dried.Some get in with wrong company, have addicitions, or have mental health/low intelligence problems.
The present system whilst not perfect is very through to weigh up each case after conviction.


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Originally Posted by paxvobiscum
Originally Posted by bert1
I'll ask the question i always ask, what if you hang the wrong person?


Too many innocent people were executed so for that reason a definite'no'.

Having visited prisons for six years and having had a convicted murderer living with me for a year on release,cases are not just cut and dried.Some get in with wrong company, have addicitions, or have mental health/low intelligence problems.
The present system whilst not perfect is very through to weigh up each case after conviction.



It's your fault if you get in with the wrong crowd - all you have to do is turn and walk away. Ok so not everyone is strong enough to do that - but it can be done. I was in a wrong crowd of people who did drugs (heroine, cocaine, ectasey etc) and I walked away from it, because I knew it would get me into trouble.

Why would you offer a convicted murderer to live with you? Surely thats your own problem for allowing it to happen?

Why do they have mental health problems? drugs? alchohol - again thats by choice!

People know when they are doing something wrong, and when they are doing something that isn't good for them.

If they are high on drugs or are so intoxicated and murder someone - they should be held accountable!

I still say bring it back - but only for murder/serial killer cases. No-body should be given an excuse to murder!


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Originally Posted by Nobody
he included a 4chan picture and work have 4chan on lock down. Not somewhere they want me frittering my working hours away.

4chons? wot iz 4chons? laugh

That was 420chan actually, was the first image when I searched for trollface. I would imagine all the *chans are blocked from office machines though.

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Oh,lol, I missunderstood the post....apologies smile

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Thanks Nikki for your comments. By nature I am a pragmatist, believing that you cannot change the past but will try to see the best way forward.
I don't believe in kicking people when they are down at rock bottom even if they have sometimes only themselves to blame.You have done well to pull yourself by your bootstraps but unfortunately there are others who cannot.
Yes, I agree people should be accountable for crimes they have done.



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Originally Posted by Touchstone
It's now a condition of joining the EU that a state must not have Capital Punishment.


So if we have a vote of being for the death penalty we'll have to leave the EU? think Sounds like a plan think

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I'd be happy to pull out of the EU but not just to bring back the Death Penalty.

What always amuses me is the way right-wing Tories bang on about evil EU and the horrible Froggies, Krauts and Wops etc. Yet the buggers were happy to sell our gas, water and electricity off to them.

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