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Originally Posted by bert1
I'll ask the question i always ask, what if you hang the wrong person?


Easy answer to that, if the wrong one is proven to have been hung, then you take the barristers from both defence and prosecution, and the head of the police investigation team outside and execute them!

Won't be many mistakes after the first one, maybe two.

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Isnt the death penalty still technically in place as a form of punishment anyway, as a punishment for anyone committing treason?

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Originally Posted by Spritey_Nikki
Well then it looks as though we agree to disagree.

I believe crime rate would go down if people who were murderers were facing the death penalty.

Our knife crime, drug crime and even alcohol related incidents is so high, I feel if the prisons were harsher, and there was the option of death penalty it would decrease.

I would like to know why on your caption you have 'This is no place for children' is that the world in general? or is that UK only?

No this country isn't a place for children, but why isn't it for you?

I say bring it back. If someone hurt a member of my family - the murderer would have a death sentence anyway - and not by the courts!!


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Its origins i think if my memory banks are working properly, its a prayer by a marine who was on Iwo Jima at its worse.


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An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

The Death penalty is just a load a crap.

So we kill the murderer for killing someone.

Its just not logical, we would be commiting the same crime.


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I understand perfectly well the British Legal System. However, I tell you what - if other countries can do it, then why can't we? If the evidence speaks for itself, and the murderer is caught - then why shouldnt they have the death penalty?

I agree with the death penalty, I don't believe that the wrong person should die. However if the evidence is damning, or the evidence is there and they get a confession - then why shouldn't we have it.

I have different views to most people with living in a strict country for most of my life. I have seen things differently, I have different morals and values to most people....


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Originally Posted by JohnLeatherFix
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

The Death penalty is just a load a crap.

So we kill the murderer for killing someone.

Its just not logical, we would be commiting the same crime.


Hmm I really hope nothing ever happens to a family member of yours.

I know if anything was done to my family, I would want the death penalty. If not, I would murder them, the death penalty wouldn't be in by then, so I could go to jaily and be out in half my time...easy!


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Well stone the crows!
This little article has caused quite a stir has it not?
Carry on people.

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America still has the death penalty......... why is death row full..... its not a deterent at all. America has huge crime problems.

Im not a religious man and i dont belive in god. But in the bible it states quite clealy. Tho shalt not kill. So the person who flicks the switch on the electric chair ,the person who gives the injection. They are in fact ending someones life.



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I'm sorry but no-body is going to change my mind


I have that effect on a lot of girls.

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I'm not religious at all, so that side of it I don't care about at all.

Yes death row is full, but America is a far larger country to ours, look at the ratio....theres no comparison.

And evidentally you do have some religious beliefs else you wouldn't have brought it up smile


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TBH my brother was killed in a car accident (passenger) you dont see me wanting to kill the person who killed him, why you ask? Because and eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.


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TBH my brother was killed in a car accident (passenger) you dont see me wanting to kill the person who killed him, why you ask? Because and eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.


That wasn't murder.

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No im not religious and dont belive in one person who made it all. Im a person who bases his views on truths and facts. I belive in some of the buddist ways of life. They dont belive in a soul master/God/Allah to worship. instead you live your life and treat people well.

Religion is the casue of many many problems over the years. The fact is that if you kill some one for killing a family member then you are doing what the killer did. and so the visious circle begins.



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Originally Posted by Spritey_Nikki
I understand perfectly well the British Legal System. However, I tell you what - if other countries can do it, then why can't we? If the evidence speaks for itself, and the murderer is caught - then why shouldnt they have the death penalty?

I agree with the death penalty, I don't believe that the wrong person should die. However if the evidence is damning, or the evidence is there and they get a confession - then why shouldn't we have it.

I have different views to most people with living in a strict country for most of my life. I have seen things differently, I have different morals and values to most people....

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against the death penalty, I'd like to see it implemented in some manner, but again the argument that if "the evidence is damning" etc, the person should be hanged, does not apply in the British legal system, as only the guilty are (supposedly) convicted of crimes.

I'd like us to move towards a more Middle East style of punishment and crim-enforcement, I particuarly admire the legal system that the UAE countries have in place for instance; but the death penalty is a sticking point, because of the risk of human error, and the fact it is not reversible. In some respects, is it not also giving the coward, the cowards way out? How about making them suffera PoW enviroment for 30+ years instead, with basic food and clothing provided, basic meals, world service for comfort and stuck in a padded cell, with no entitlement to early release etc...

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Originally Posted by JohnLeatherFix
The fact is that if you kill some one for killing a family member then you are doing what the killer did. and so the visious circle begins.


You could look at it that way, or you could look at it in a different way... if someone has deliberately taken a life in cold blood then obviously they are capable of it. That's more than most people. In my view, they need to be taken out of the equation, so they can't do it again.

Why should you and I help to fund this?

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