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#552891 - 28th Jul 2011 9:41am If you don't speak English...
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...you can't belong in Britain. A fair assumption or racial discrimination?


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Australia requires applicants for work visas to have “vocational English”, which means they must be able to read, write, understand and speak English well enough to hold down a job. Applicants may be required to take an independent test of proficiency. Canada requires proficiency in either English or French, and also requires applicants to take a language test from an approved agency.



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#552893 - 28th Jul 2011 9:44am Re: If you don't speak English... [Re: MissGuided]
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I think immigrants need more than just a grasp of the language if we are to let them in the country.....

...something useful maybe, certain medical qualifications and the likes.
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#552919 - 28th Jul 2011 10:50am Re: If you don't speak English... [Re: StuyMac]
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Obviously racially discriminating.

As is anything aimed at immigration from non english speaking regions.

All who have been refused entry previously for these reasons should be recalled to the country.

As compensation for such hidious treatment they should be given a house.

Disability living allowance, not being able to speak or read the language must surely be a disability, especially if you're an immigrant as well.

Mobility car, fitted with satnav with their own language pack.

Freedom from prosecution for any crime, If they can't understand the language, how can they be expected to understand the laws.

Anything I've missed I'm sure there are enough scummy, money grabbing human rights lawyers out there willing to add to the list for a fee!

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#552931 - 28th Jul 2011 11:06am Re: If you don't speak English... [Re: MissGuided]
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Ban them all and give our own population the jobs they are taking mad

Sick of this discrimination talk and I'm sick of company's walking on eggshells because it it.


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#552949 - 28th Jul 2011 11:18am Re: If you don't speak English... [Re: MissGuided]
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Yes it should be done here,vocational english should be a must.
Enough said before i start ranting!
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#552950 - 28th Jul 2011 11:19am Re: If you don't speak English... [Re: MissGuided]
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I think its vital because language is what brings us together - its communication ffs! I know we don't have a very good track record in this country for learning other country's languages. Let's face it Modern Foreign Languages have dwindled in importance in secondary schools (only just being brought back into necessity by means of the new English Baccalaureate). I digress, I think you need to know basics like 'Help' and 'Fire' and 'Where is the airport?' etc. How do you handle an emergency if you cannot manage the language?
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#552955 - 28th Jul 2011 11:24am Re: If you don't speak English... [Re: MissGuided]
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Even second generation immigrants,born here are not speaking english,its a disgrace!
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#552974 - 28th Jul 2011 11:39am Re: If you don't speak English... [Re: MissGuided]
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Ban them all and their stupid religions!
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#552977 - 28th Jul 2011 11:50am Re: If you don't speak English... [Re: MissGuided]
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Yerr all religions!!!!

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#552978 - 28th Jul 2011 11:50am Re: If you don't speak English... [Re: MissGuided]
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#552980 - 28th Jul 2011 11:52am Re: If you don't speak English... [Re: MissGuided]
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Je pense que chacun devrait avoir à parler l'anglais ou avoir une connaissance de base de l'anglais avant qu'ils ne soient autorisés nulle part à proximité du pays. Cela inclut les centres d'appels indiens et les Gallois


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#552985 - 28th Jul 2011 11:59am Re: If you don't speak English... [Re: MissGuided]
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#552997 - 28th Jul 2011 12:19pm Re: If you don't speak English... [Re: yewgarth]
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#553007 - 28th Jul 2011 12:31pm Re: If you don't speak English... [Re: MissGuided]
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The thing is if they spoke english how many of us would talk to them anyway?

People are scared of new things, you say Ban them all and their stupid religions, but look at N-Ireland they've got the same religions that we have got but can't stand each other, people said the same thing when they saw black people move in to the uk, look at any 60/70s shows on the bbc eg (Love Thy Neighbour) even only fools and horses the other day taking the wee out of an asian man,

try this the farther you go the more english you become raftl

don't get my wrong like someone said on here they should know english so they can call the police and to get by in life.

who hates a person in there street?
who hates a person in the next road?
who here doesn't like liverpool the place?
who here doesn't like manchester ?
now london
where do we draw the line? smile

sorry just playing The Devil's Advocate wink



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#553017 - 28th Jul 2011 12:53pm Re: If you don't speak English... [Re: MissGuided]
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Speak for yourself darlin, I ain't got no religion wink
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