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All decent animal rescue centres conduct home checks to ensure that the home is suitable for the type of animal being rehomed. The really good ones will want to meet family members who live there too.

May I suggest that instead of selling/donating animals via Wikiwirral, use a well established animal rescue centre instead - they are set up specifically to deal with unwanted/unfortunate cases.

We have rescued a number of animals over the past few years and have found some of these centres/charities to be very good. I can recommend Freshfields (Ince Blundell) from personal experience.

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Why not come up with a Advice List and we can include that somewhere.

Advice for the Buyer
Advice for the seller

Most of do care, so passing on a pet to a complete stranger, i dont think happens that often on wiki.

Wiki cant stop members giving pets away.
Like the for sale forums we do not get involved its between buyer and seller, but there is a Forsale Guide for those who are first timers.

https://www.wikiwirral.co.uk/forums...For_Sale_Rules_Guidlines.html#Post541391

Include a list of rescue centres so there only a phone call away.

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Originally Posted by Kevinx
Im all for Home checks, perhaps a wiki member can have the job of pet home checker?
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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
I'm curious what a "home check" can reveal, it doesn't determine the exercise, love or diet the animal will get, just seems to be a bit of bureaucratic nosiness to me.



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Originally Posted by CrocodileDundee
I also don't like the idea of a home check. I would be wanting to re-home a pet, doesn't mean I want someone I don't know looking round my home. Just because I live in an untidy house (I don't) doesn't mean I am a bad carer!

I must admit I'm a bit of a hoarder and not a tidy up person
Perhaps it may work the other way - your house may be too clean and tidy, "a take your shoes off before you walk on my pristine floor or carpet" It could be an environment where the animal often gets told off often if it leaves muddy prints or has an "accident - number2" in the wrong place.
My wife once took in a dog that must of been terrified by a previous owner and it took a long time for it to settle down although the dog was always frightened to be let out into the garden - crying and pacing up and down to the back door to be let back in - sadly both wife and dog have passed away


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All my pus went to people that I know are suitable owners,
I asked them all to fill out a questionaire, one of the questions on it was... ''would you agree to signing a contract stating that if anything was to happen that meant they could no longer take care of the pup no matter how many years had passed by, they would return it to me to find a new home''. Also I agreed to sign a contract stating that ''on the first health check by vet, if anything was found to wrong with the pup i would give a full refund and take the puppy back. all puppy owners agreed to everything without hesitation.
however if...(god forbid) I had to re-home one of my adult dogs,
I would do my own home check, similar to the ones I do for the UKGSRescue.

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Some people who say FOR SALE in vets etc do that to put of unwanted people who want be interested really, I got my two new cats and they were advertised with a price but the lady said it was then you only get really interested people and never charged us.

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Tilly, could you tell us what do you and the UKGSRescue look for when you do a home check?.


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I can't understand anyone giving a perfectly edible animal away anyway.


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Originally Posted by BandyCoot
I can't understand anyone giving a perfectly edible animal away anyway.


I blame the parents, kids today are no longer taught how to slaughter and dress their own meat.

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Originally Posted by derekdwc
Tilly, could you tell us what do you and the UKGSRescue look for when you do a home check?.



If the potential owners want a dog to live outside, it can only be a dog that is already used to living outside.

We do not re-home dogs to be used for guarding, breeding or anything other than as a family pet.

We do not place in a family home where they will be left for longer than 4 hours a day at any one time.

We don’t generally re-home in upstairs flats or where there is a communal garden or no secure area to ensure the dog’s safety.

The new owner must agree to have the dogs either neutered or spayed within 3 months.

New owners must also agree that we can keep in touch for the rest of the dog’s life. A follow up visit will be arranged approximately 6 weeks after the adoption, at which time we will take photos.

We do not normally re-home dogs to people who have 2 or more dogs.

We do not re-home our dogs to families who have children under the age of 7 years old, unless children have big dog experience and it has been agreed with Head Rescue Coordinator.

If the new owner already has a dog, we will only usually give them a dog of the opposite sex.

New owners are not allowed to re-home the dog themselves; the dog must come back to UK German Shepherd Rescue.

The new owner must be advised that we will match them to the correct dog.

New homes must have GSD or at least extensive dog owning experience.

The need for insurance is essential as the rescue will not be held responsible for vet’s bills.


New owners must advise us immediately of any change in circumstances which would mean that the dog is not getting the attention etc, that the dog deserves.

If everything goes well at the Home Check and you are able to adopt a dog through our Rescue, you must be made aware that you cannot at any time part with that dog for any reason, unless he/she comes back to our Rescue.

At the time of adoption, there is a donation expected to be paid for each dog. This goes towards the ever growing vet and kennel costs. This is non-refundable.

Adoption fees: £85-250 depending on age of dog. This is non-refundable and is payable on the day of the adoption. This is not payment for the dog but put towards funding to help other dogs needing our help.


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That is a very comprehensive reply, and I'm sure it will be a great help to those looking to 'vet' (no pun intended lol) anyone wanting to adopt their pet.

The 4-hour rule, whilst understandable, is quite strict Tilly; do you find it has become a major obstacle to people adopting a rescue GSD?

Do you/GSDR offer a similar service, externally, in return for a donation to the scheme? If not at present, is it something you would consider doing for people?

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It would be handy to see a

What to do if you no longer want your pet.
As that is what it boils down too.

So
List of Rescue Centres (one option)
(option 2)Things to think about before you give a pet away (checks Home / Personal)

If i was going to get rid of a pet how could you help me do it right which is right for me and right for the pet. And the best efforts to find a new home.

And then the flip side?
If i was going to recieve a pet for free off a friend or family what questions should i be asking to ensure i'm prepared for the addition. Because i dont want to switch sides and now i become the how to get rid of a pet.


It would be good if i could put your points in to 1 sticky post to at the least just make both parties aware.

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Option 3 - what to consider BEFORE you get a pet????

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Reference the kitten in a bag, see what happens when you can't give animals away, fly tipping that's what.


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