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dizdazdoz - I dont believe for one second you enjoy smoking, and this is from a 40 a day habit man, quit for 14 months now, no one enjoys smoking, its just triggers that make you feel like you do, like after a meal, do yourself a favour and quit, I promise you it will be the best thing you will ever do.

No your taxes do not may for my cancer treatment, the taxes of the tobacco will well and truly cover that cost, oh yeah thanks for saying I will get cancer must admit that will be a nice day so thanks for the warning.

Thanks you for saying I smell to.

Iv'e tried quitting in the past and never really as I wanted to more the costs, it may actually be hard to believe but I really do enjoy smoking, I dont drink but use to and can see why other's do, everyone to their own I say.

My Bold.

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally?? So what about the assaults on members of the public, Police and NHS staff, the drink drivers? According to a report in 2008, 45% of all violent crime is alcohol-related (Source: Sheffield University ScHARR study 2008).

The British Crime Survey (2000) estimates that there were around 1.2 million incidents of alcohol-related violence in 1999 (defined as assaults, robbery and snatch thefts in which the victim considered the perpetrator to be 'under the influence' of alcohol).

Just over a third of incidents were between strangers and a further third between acquaintances. A quarter were domestic assaults between partners, relatives or household members. Only 5% were muggings (robbery and snatch thefts). Incidents were by no means trivial.

More than half of incidents resulted in some form of injury. In a fifth of incidents, the perpetrator had a weapon which they threatened to use, most often a glass or drinking bottle.

The majority of incidents of alcohol-related violence between strangers and between
acquaintances did not come to the attention of the police (61% and 63%).

If you want to read the whole report Click Here

Drink driving stats - Take your pick of the latest rates from roughly 2007



And some of the tax that is put on the cigarettes, along with the tax and NI that working smokers pay too. Or are you self funding the NHS all on your own!?! Not all smokers get cancer either.

Did anyone watch the program last night about tobacco and customs and excise.
Over 100 million pounds is being spent to catch illicit tobacco factories in the UK set up with pouch packets loose tobacco sent from China.
if 9 OUT OF 10 container loads of loose tobacco were confiscated
such is the profit if one got through the smugglers would still be making a profit.
The UK is losing billions in unpaid duty.
If you buy any Golden Virginia pouches with OT 7069 on the price tag it is a counterfeit package and when it was analysed was found to have had 20 times the amount of lead in it compared to a genuine packet

Yes i watched it,am furious now i know whats in the tobacco
cos our local shop in new ferry got caught with it
He only got 200 hours of community work,which is pathetic

not wonder i have had a bad chest god knows what i've been smoking
i have never bought of carboots or markets thought i was safer buying legitamate tobacco from a shop

I CAN SEE THIS RESULTING IN AN ALL OUT SLANGING MATCH BETWEEN MEMBERS
EVERYONE TO THEIR OWN INTERESTS

LETS TRY TO CALM THIS TOPIC DOWN PLEASE.

Eh?? It's a rather healthy debate. It's just easier to back up statements with evidence, otherwise it's just opinion. Nothing's getting personal. IF it does get to that point (which I doubt it will), I'm sure the Mods can cope

Must admit I like healthy debate, however I dont like being told I WILL get cancer and that I smell, why get personal and say someone will get cancer surely MAY would of been better.

I think that lungs that look like a pair of hanging kippers are quite attractive, and they way the tarry goo just drips off them leaves me ecstatic. The way heavy smokers wheeze and cough their lungs up after the least exertion is music to my ears. The reason is that I gave up smoking 28 years ago and I'm glad that I did. Cough on boys.

I'd like to add my two cents worth here. I agree totally with what Wench, Bert and several others are saying. My dad never smoked nor drank. My mum however began smoking the dreaded "Woodies" when dad was off in the war. She was raising three kids on her own with bombs dropping all round, rationing and all the other nasties of the time. At this point I'll tell you that she ALWAYS went outside, therefore there was no second-hand smoke. There are no points for guessing which of them died first. Dad had two heart attacks and a massive stroke and left way before mum did. I worked for many years as a therapist in nursing homes and tried every avenue I knew to get tax free smokes for the old diggers. Believe me, those old chaps had few pleasures left in life and smoking was one of them. I could never understand why travellers were allowed duty free smokes and these brave old men could not get the same prices. The powers that be never once bothered to reply to my correspondence. On the alcohol debate - I never yet heard of a man/woman smoking a packet of fags and then kicking and beating another human to death just for the "fun" if it as so often happens these days. Right - I'm off my soap box now. To each his own I say.

Good post Ruth

Didn't realise there were so many Temperate folks on wiki wirral, how very refreshing.

well said ruth.....round of applause x