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Rightways were still selling 100w bulbs until quite recently. Could be worth phoning your local store, they're normally very good about ringing around on your behalf and seeing what they can get for you.
Am I right in thinking the new energy efficient bulbs are actually quite bad for the enviroment? They may save energy but don't they contain mercury or something?? Nobody ever explains how you're supposed to dispose of these things.
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Like a lot of unmittigated crap that is forced upon us by "Europe", the CFL sketch is just that... crap. Snod is right insomuch as it's the light output that matters to me and thee. Lumens per watt. The equivalent to 100w - or whatever is misleading to say the least.
YES geekus, they are bad for the enviroment. VERY BAD. The coating on the inner walls of the tube is full of nasties in a FINE POWDER FORM that is bad for YOU should you inhale any of it. ie. accidental breakage in the house. Mercury is one of the fun products ! Then of course there is the manufacturing processes involved in making the ballast inside the body of the lamp.
One thing to bear in mind is when the supply of all wattage incandecents has stopped..... just watch the price of these CFL efforts rocket !! When there is no alternative to CFL's, the manufacturers will hike the price up until the pips squeak - and some. They are cheap to buy at the moment. That is temporary I assure you.
The mains frequency flicker on CFL's ain't too good for folk with a type of epilepsy. Reportedly causes headaches in some to.
The sooner we get away from that shower of syphallitic sh*te in Brussels the better !
Oh yes, the "Global Warming" bit, oh sorry, they've changed it conveniently now to "Climate Change". Do you honestly think for one moment, changing to the CFL con bulbs makes any difference to countrywide energy consumption ?? Gimme strength !! Your council and most others enjoy flood lighting public buildings, spaces etc. for no good reason at all using THOUSANDS of watts (kw). This goes also for private companies who turn night into day in and around their buildings. Bloody Nora !!
Sorry. I haven't had a good rant for a while.
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Interesting stuff mate. Thanks for that. Who needs nuclear weapons when we can just throw CFL's at each other, eh?
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Like a lot of unmittigated crap that is forced upon us by "Europe", the CFL sketch is just that... crap. Snod is right insomuch as it's the light output that matters to me and thee. Lumens per watt. The equivalent to 100w - or whatever is misleading to say the least.
YES geekus, they are bad for the enviroment. VERY BAD. The coating on the inner walls of the tube is full of nasties in a FINE POWDER FORM that is bad for YOU should you inhale any of it. ie. accidental breakage in the house. Mercury is one of the fun products ! Then of course there is the manufacturing processes involved in making the ballast inside the body of the lamp.
One thing to bear in mind is when the supply of all wattage incandecents has stopped..... just watch the price of these CFL efforts rocket !! When there is no alternative to CFL's, the manufacturers will hike the price up until the pips squeak - and some. They are cheap to buy at the moment. That is temporary I assure you.
The mains frequency flicker on CFL's ain't too good for folk with a type of epilepsy. Reportedly causes headaches in some to.
The sooner we get away from that shower of syphallitic sh*te in Brussels the better !
Oh yes, the "Global Warming" bit, oh sorry, they've changed it conveniently now to "Climate Change". Do you honestly think for one moment, changing to the CFL con bulbs makes any difference to countrywide energy consumption ?? Gimme strength !! Your council and most others enjoy flood lighting public buildings, spaces etc. for no good reason at all using THOUSANDS of watts (kw). This goes also for private companies who turn night into day in and around their buildings. Bloody Nora !!
Sorry. I haven't had a good rant for a while.
Im pretty sure that the ozone and pollution was cause by the vast number of nukes they let off in the atmosphere thb.
Uncertainty or not knowing causes depression, Im happy because I know I'm going to die one day!
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Agree. Likewise a good rant is good for the soul !!  Just back from shopping. They have 100 watters on the shelf, but you'll have to come to Sussex to get them !!  Another thing with these horrors is disposing of them. You can't put them any of the normal bins, they have to be disposed of separately as they contain toxic elements (mercury, amongst others) so you should take them to the recycling centre. If you break one you can't just sweep it up !! Evacuate the area for at least half an hour to allow the vapour and particles to disperse. Don a face mask, gloves and googles and SWEEP up don't use a hoover as that puts everything back in the air. Put the broken bits etc in a separate bag and take to the tip !! (Same with flouescent tubes) They don't tell you any of this of course !! Add to this the cost of the recycling and you have a really wonderful eco friendly product that they are forcing onto us !! I've used halogens for years now but you don't seem to be ale to get 100w versions any more, though 75w is as good as a 100w tungsten in my opinion and they last a bit longer.
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Using the mean time between failure of CFL and incandecent bulbs, and that the UK is still ~30% coal generated power, CFLs release less mercury into the atmosphere - even taking into account the manufacturing process. (Of course the world's oldest bulb is an incandecent and 110 this year.)
Remember; a faulty light fitting can cause premature expiry of bulbs (regardless of type).
Pinzgauer is correct in saying that CFLs should be disposed of the same way as the florecent tubes rather than general waste. The wheelie bin with a line through it on the packaging indicates this. However, they are covered by the Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment (WEEE) Directive, as such some stores will take them from you (e.g. Ikea).
IMHO the best CFL bulbs are Ecozone's Biobulb range. They give a more natural light, closer to that of daylight, and are quick to warm up. However, rather than the usual 50p-£4 price tag, these cost closer to £10 as they are aimed at SAD sufferers.
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