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#469461 - 5th Feb 2011 11:28am Missing Street
Erainn Offline
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Anyone know of a Birkenhead street or road, called something like:

Haman/Hamon Harmon/Harman

which was around in 1870/80s in the St.Annes parish.


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#469494 - 5th Feb 2011 12:11pm Re: Missing Street [Re: Erainn]
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Found a HAMANK STREET, St Annes Parish in the 1881 census.

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#469502 - 5th Feb 2011 12:26pm Re: Missing Street [Re: nightwalker]
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Oh that's brilliant smile sounds very promising, Wonder if anyone has a map showing that street?

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#469519 - 5th Feb 2011 12:50pm Re: Missing Street [Re: Erainn]
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Found a Flamank Street, 1899, between Price St and Brook St.



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#469521 - 5th Feb 2011 12:57pm Re: Missing Street [Re: MissGuided]
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Snooze, you are a star! smile Thanks for digging that out..the street I'm looking for information on was called 'Hamank Sreet'


Edited by Erainn (5th Feb 2011 12:59pm)

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#469524 - 5th Feb 2011 1:03pm Re: Missing Street [Re: MissGuided]
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oooops hang-on a second.the copperplate writing on the document I have before me is a little unclear, could be a 'H', then again may well be an 'F'. Darn those cursive writers smile But the other post noted a Hamank Street in a Census, unless that too had misread the first letter as a 'H'?

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#469533 - 5th Feb 2011 1:21pm Re: Missing Street [Re: Erainn]
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Have compared the 1881 and 1891 censuses and they are the same place - same number of houses and numbers 3&5 are a Pub. Looking at the original 1881 census sheet I think it has been wrongly transcribed as Hamank - the old style capital F and the l do look like an H. So Flamank it is! Do you need any info about the residents?

Forgot to mention that it is shown as Flamark in the 1891 census and there's no Hamark Street.


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#469545 - 5th Feb 2011 1:53pm Re: Missing Street [Re: Erainn]
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The houses in Flamank St seem to have disappeared by 1954-56, bombings during the war maybe? Slum clearance?
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#469553 - 5th Feb 2011 2:08pm Re: Missing Street [Re: nightwalker]
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Originally Posted By: nightwalker
Have compared the 1881 and 1891 censuses and they are the same place - same number of houses and numbers 3&5 are a Pub. Looking at the original 1881 census sheet I think it has been wrongly transcribed as Hamank - the old style capital F and the l do look like an H. So Flamank it is! Do you need any info about the residents?

Forgot to mention that it is shown as Flamark in the 1891 census and there's no Hamark Street.


OOps! The last line should of course read Flamank and Hamank

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#469554 - 5th Feb 2011 2:11pm Re: Missing Street [Re: MissGuided]
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You are probably right there, certainly being so close to the docks, was a target for bombing no doubt. Yet seem to recall lots of original housing in and around that area during the late 1960s. Maybe it fell victim to the butcherous planning of the 1980s that tranformed the area into an urban desert, so sad seeing how it looks on Google Maps.


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#469563 - 5th Feb 2011 2:49pm Re: Missing Street [Re: Erainn]
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I know exactly what you mean when you say "urban desert". The thing which strikes me when I visit that area these days is how deserted the roads are, compared with the 1940's when there were constant traffic jams caused by the dock traffic & of course the tunnel dock branch was really busy.
Here's an extract from Willmer's 1915/16 directory for Flamank St. Almost exclusively dockers.


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#469566 - 5th Feb 2011 2:58pm Re: Missing Street [Re: chriskay]
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Fascinating list indeed, a considerable number of Irish names, many thanks for sharing that, how times and towns change!


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#469567 - 5th Feb 2011 2:59pm Re: Missing Street [Re: Erainn]
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#469568 - 5th Feb 2011 3:01pm Re: Missing Street [Re: Erainn]
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i have a map from 1909 you can get the same map from www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk. it is flamank street.the map costs 2.25.when you order ask for ord survey map birkenhead 1909

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#469569 - 5th Feb 2011 3:02pm Re: Missing Street [Re: arsenal]
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Very grateful for your help on that. Kind regards, Erainn

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