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#462177 - 15th Jan 2011 1:55pm figure of eight
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My Mum told me years ago that her friend was killed when the figure of eight came off the rails.It was at the Tower Grounds,think that's what it was called!I remember it being a rickety old wooden thing and don't ever remember seeing it running.

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#462194 - 15th Jan 2011 2:57pm Re: figure of eight [Re: Bezzymate]
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#462212 - 15th Jan 2011 4:13pm Re: figure of eight [Re: bert1]
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Thanks Bert.Do you know anything about the accident?

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#462216 - 15th Jan 2011 4:30pm Re: figure of eight [Re: Bezzymate]
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Can't say i know anything about the accident, maybe paulwirral or Upton may come up with something.
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#462284 - 15th Jan 2011 8:57pm Re: figure of eight [Re: Bezzymate]
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When I was about 8 years old (1967) the lift chain for this ride broke and the roller coaster car run back down the lift slope (there were spring loaded planks on the lift slope that were to slow the car if this happened but these were never designed to hold the weight of the car, just slow it's backward descent). The car passed backwards through the ride load station and through the "Brake Station" (this was a flat beam in the middle of the track designed to slow the car as it entered the ride station when traveling the CORRECT way and could be applied at varying amounts by a "Brake Man" depending on the load in the car). As the car passed through going the wrong way, the guy applied this brake to slow it down and was ejected across his working platform for his troubles! As far as I am aware, he was the only person injured in this incident (not badly) the people in the car suffering only shock (and maybe a few underwear stains)! I am sure this was the rides only incident in it's working life and, as far as I know, it was maintained to a high standard right up until it's final closure due to an arson attack. As a footnote, several people on the ride during this incident were related to the owner of the waxworks in the tower building, one of them was either his Daughter or Granddaughter and another was her cousin (she would be in her early 50s now).


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#462630 - 16th Jan 2011 9:40pm Re: figure of eight [Re: ianbx1]
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Near the end.


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#463722 - 19th Jan 2011 11:08pm Re: figure of eight [Re: Bezzymate]
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Wow Man I always used to think about that spot when I walked into the Palace in New Brighton, it had the same smell of chips, doughnuts, and hot machine oil ...... this is a great photo for old sad one like myself who fondly remember the old fairground, you haven't got any more have you I'd love to see them.
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#463730 - 19th Jan 2011 11:30pm Re: figure of eight [Re: Bezzymate]
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Can anyone please tell me when the building and all of the rides etc (the actual site, I'm talking about) was cleared? I think I have memories of some of the stuff still being there when I was VERY young but I'm not sure if I've just seen too many pictures. I know the building went up in flames in 1969 when I was less than a year old but there must have been remains for a while after that knowing how slow our council are to sort things out. Ant help will be very gratefully received.

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#463741 - 19th Jan 2011 11:57pm Re: figure of eight [Re: Bezzymate]
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'Any' help I mean of course, my ants are doing just fine!

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#463893 - 20th Jan 2011 12:32pm Re: figure of eight [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: CrocodileDundee
Can anyone please tell me when the building and all of the rides etc (the actual site, I'm talking about) was cleared? I think I have memories of some of the stuff still being there when I was VERY young but I'm not sure if I've just seen too many pictures. I know the building went up in flames in 1969 when I was less than a year old but there must have been remains for a while after that knowing how slow our council are to sort things out. Ant help will be very gratefully received.


Good point. I may be totally off beam here but I think the tower building was derelict when it went on fire? Some of the photo's of it being demolished show the boating lake empty and in a sorry state so I doubt that would ever reopen. It is possible that some rides tried to keep going for a while but the end came very quickly after that if they did. The building itself was demolished quite quickly. I watched some of it from New Brighton football ground and was quite fascinated by the crane with the huge wrecking ball bashing it to bits. Took some knocking down though.

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#464604 - 21st Jan 2011 11:20pm Re: figure of eight [Re: Bezzymate]
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Fire was in November 69, this was "Out of Season" for the fairground but the building was in full flow (the Manager and his team locked up as normal that night) As it was out of season, most of the rides were in storage (or in the case of ones privately owned had been returned to the owners winter quarters). The boating lake was emptied every winter (this was detrimental at the time of the fire as the fire brigade could have used the water to help fight the fire when they first arrived).
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#464608 - 21st Jan 2011 11:33pm Re: figure of eight [Re: Bezzymate]
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The Tower Ballroom had the largest "Sprung" Dance floor in Europe. I don't know if it's an Urban Myth or not but I was told that after the fire spread to this (it started in the theater) the fate of the Tower was sealed as the way a dance floor is "Sprung" is to float it in linseed Oil, which, once lit would burn furiously! Can anyone confirm that when they talk about "Sprung" dance floors, this is what they do to make it "Sprung"?
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#464622 - 22nd Jan 2011 12:37am Re: figure of eight [Re: Bezzymate]
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A sprung floor just means it is (usually) a wooden floor that is raised of the solid surface beneath - it doesn't float on a liquid.

Most houses were built this way until fairly recently.

The floor may have been treated with linseed oil but any quantity of this hanging around would overwhelm you, it makes breathing quite heavy.
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#464626 - 22nd Jan 2011 12:44am Re: figure of eight [Re: Bezzymate]
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This is all very interesting (I know that sounds somewhat sarcastic or condecending but I mean it seriously) but can anyone answer my original question? When was the site cleared? Please!

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#464662 - 22nd Jan 2011 8:15am Re: figure of eight [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Originally Posted By: ianbx1
Fire was in November 69

As I understand it, the fire was in the early hours of 5th April 1969, just after the site had opened for Easter. (Easter Sunday was 6th April).

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A sprung floor just means it is (usually) a wooden floor that is raised of the solid surface beneath

A sprung dance floor is a bit more complicated than this. Traditional sprung floors had steel springs screwed to the ths subfloor at about 18 inch centres. Joists were laid across these springs. A second set of thin joists was laid at on top of and at right angles to the first set. A third set of joists was then laid on top of the second set, parallel to the first set. The dance floor surface was laid on top of this construction. Modern 'basket weave' sprung floors are of similar construction, howevere neoprene pads are used in place of the springs.


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