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#449770 - 6th Dec 2010 1:32pm wanted info onthis monastery
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Just wondering what this monastery is and how long its been there
The Carmelite Nuns .Are they anything to do with the Sisters of the Poor
thought monks = monastery
nuns = nunnery


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#449772 - 6th Dec 2010 1:42pm Re: wanted info onthis monastery [Re: derekdwc]
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#449776 - 6th Dec 2010 2:36pm Re: wanted info onthis monastery [Re: _Ste_]
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A Monastery is a building that houses a religious community, monks or nuns. They both dedicate life to religious service and contemplation. The little sisters of the poor are Carmelite, Sisters of Nazareth etc, etc.
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#449785 - 6th Dec 2010 3:22pm Re: wanted info onthis monastery [Re: bert1]
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I Used to live behind that monastrey i know they have extensive grounds there. They also grown there own food etc. Think some of them have taken a vow of silence also

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#449842 - 6th Dec 2010 6:39pm Re: wanted info onthis monastery [Re: ]
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It is the Carmelite Monastery, and used to be called the Carmelite Convent.

The Carmelites are an enclosed order of nuns, they live in an enclosure which they may not leave, nor may visitors enter the enclosure.

The Carmelites arrived in Birkenhead, at the request of Bishop Singleton, on 25th July 1918.

They have no connection with the many other orders who have (or have had) convents in Birkenhead over the years, this is a list of the main orders:

Sisters of the Holy Family - Highfield Road Rock Ferry, Waterford Rad Oxton, Marymount Wallasey and Rowson Street New Brighton.

Little Sisters of the Poor - Parkfield Avenue Birkenhead.

Sisters of Charity - St Margaret's Rock Ferry and St Elizabeth's Birkenhead

Sisters of Charity of St Vincent de Paul - St Edmund's Bebington.

Sisters of Nazareth - Manor Hill Birkenhead.

Sisters of Notre Dame - Eleanor Road Bidston.

Faithful Companions of Jesus - Upton Hall Upton, Holt Hill Tranmere and Heathbank Road Birkenhead.

Sisters of the Holy Cross - Park Road West Birkenhead.


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#449847 - 6th Dec 2010 7:13pm Re: wanted info onthis monastery [Re: uptoncx]
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thanks for info
Do any of these still have nunneries/monastries etc
I must say it seems to have been a long time since I last saw a nun about.
The only monk or friar I have seen in Birkenhead was the one who used to sing in Grange Rd and sell his tapes - forget his name


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#449853 - 6th Dec 2010 7:44pm Re: wanted info onthis monastery [Re: derekdwc]
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The majority of nuns no longer wear habits, so you wouldn't notice them in the street.

Convents etc which are still occupied by nuns:

Carmelites - Grosvenor Place Birkenhead

Sisters of Charity - St Elizabeth's Birkenhead

Faithful Companions of Jesus - Heathbank Road Birkenhead

Holy Family of Bordeaux - Highfield Street Rock Ferry

Sisters of Nazareth - Manor Hill Birkenhead

Sisters of Notre Dame - West Kirby

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#449855 - 6th Dec 2010 7:56pm Re: wanted info onthis monastery [Re: uptoncx]
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The one's in Grosvenor place are never seen either. Not sure if it is just men they daren't look at or it applies to everyone. Seems very stupid these days but whatever turns you on. There was a monastery in Upton Village when I was a kid I seem to remember?

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#449858 - 6th Dec 2010 8:15pm Re: wanted info onthis monastery [Re: Helles]
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Originally Posted By: Helles
There was a monastery in Upton Village when I was a kid I seem to remember?


Upton Hall Convent (never called a Monastery) was in Upton from 1863 until March 1999. The FCJ sisters, who still own the school, were (and are) teachers. They opened a first class boarding school in Lingdale House in Claughton in 1849, they also opened a free primary school, which was funded by the boarding school. In 1863 both schools moved to Upton Hall.

In 1852 they opened a second boarding school in Hampden Street in Birkenhead which, after first moving to Hamilton Square, moved to Holt Hill and became Holt Hill Convent. After the second world wall the Holt Hill sisters lived at Upton Hall and travelled to the school each morning by bus.







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#449866 - 6th Dec 2010 9:15pm Re: wanted info onthis monastery [Re: uptoncx]
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That's the one by the spur isn't it? The one I am talking about was where the school is now. I can remember looking over the wall to see the monks playing rounders. I think that is what they were playing anyway!!

I researched a woman from Wallasey once who became a nun in Lingdale House, moved to Upton and then went to Australia. The family originally lived in Marymount which became the convent in Wallasey.

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#449883 - 6th Dec 2010 9:38pm Re: wanted info onthis monastery [Re: Helles]
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The building by the motorway spur is Upton Manor, it was bought by the FCJ sisters (from Upton Hall) in 1951, initially as a boarding house for Upton Hall, then as a Prep School for Upton Hall. The Manor was closed and sold by the sisters in 1984.

Upton Hall, which is located between Moreton Road, (Old) Greasby Road and Saughall Massie Road (Lane) and has its main entrance by the traffic lights in Upton Village, was bought by the FCJ sisters from the Webster Familly, who built the present Hall around 1800. There have never been monks at Upton Hall.

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#449897 - 6th Dec 2010 10:36pm Re: wanted info onthis monastery [Re: uptoncx]
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Originally Posted By: uptoncx

The building by the motorway spur is Upton Manor, it was bought by the FCJ sisters (from Upton Hall) in 1951, initially as a boarding house for Upton Hall, then as a Prep School for Upton Hall. The Manor was closed and sold by the sisters in 1984.

Upton Hall, which is located between Moreton Road, (Old) Greasby Road and Saughall Massie Road (Lane) and has its main entrance by the traffic lights in Upton Village, was bought by the FCJ sisters from the Webster Familly, who built the present Hall around 1800. There have never been monks at Upton Hall.



Must have been ghosts or was it nuns? laugh

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#455592 - 29th Dec 2010 11:59am Re: wanted info onthis monastery [Re: derekdwc]
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What was the the one that used to be on Egerton Road - in the large site bounded by Egerton road and St Vincent Road - on the same map - was something similar - Think it may have been the monastery for the Monk's who ran Monk's Ferry - or the same group at least !.

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#743212 - 14th Nov 2012 8:42pm Re: wanted info onthis monastery [Re: bigpete]
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My Great Aunt Mary joined the Carmelite Monastery in Oxton in the 1930's. She was Birkenhead born and bred. There was a Mass at Our Ladys Church to celebrate her profession before she took her vows. We still visit the beautiful Sisters at the Monastery. Its such a place of Peace and Calm.

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