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#447370 - 26th Nov 2010 3:22pm tranmere
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My great great grandfather Thomas Murphy was a police man, firstly in Manchester (1841 census) then in Tranmere with his wife and family.In 1851 they lived in Oak Tree Place. Any ideas where this is/was and why he moved to Tranmere.?? Was there a sudden crimewave I wonder?
I'd be grateful of any help
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#447414 - 26th Nov 2010 6:08pm Re: tranmere [Re: EllyMay]
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Oaktree Place was off ST Pauls Road, going down St Pauls Road towards the river, go under railway bridge its the first road on the left.
Between 1841 and 1851 the population in Tranmere rose from 2554 to 6519

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#447490 - 26th Nov 2010 10:37pm Re: tranmere [Re: alan128]
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Oak tree place is still actualy there. The police station was in Meadow lane which is further up St Pauls road on the right hand side as you walk up the hill. so you great grandfather was in a house close to his place of work.
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#447501 - 27th Nov 2010 12:01am Re: tranmere [Re: alan128]
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thanks for your help.I have located Oak tree place on google maps - on the left after going under the railway
bridge as you said.

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#447542 - 27th Nov 2010 10:51am Re: tranmere [Re: EllyMay]
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Here's a map of Oak tree place in 1910. If you know the house number, you may be able to locate it. (Starting at St.Paul's Rd. odd numbers will be on the left).


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#447546 - 27th Nov 2010 11:24am Re: tranmere [Re: chriskay]
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Chriskay do you have an extention of this map covering Livingstone road, Allison St and Meadow lane that you could put up for me. Many thanks Alan

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#447579 - 27th Nov 2010 12:26pm Re: tranmere [Re: alan128]
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Chriskay do you have an extention of this map covering Livingstone road, Allison St and Meadow lane that you could put up for me. Many thanks Alan


Right on the corner of the sheet. Let me know if this isn't enough.

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#447606 - 27th Nov 2010 1:27pm Re: tranmere [Re: chriskay]
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Just to confirm and add a bit. Oak Tree place was just next door to Limekiln Lane
Railway Station at that time. Hence the Railway Pub on the corner !
This was before the bridge was built over the line - previously level crossing
took trains over Limekiln Lane . This was re-named St Pauls Road in the 1860s
when St Pauls Church was built just bit further up on Old Chester Road .
Rock Ferry Railway Station came later ! Also Meadow Lane was always in the Tranmere district and still is today -despite many people stretching Rock Ferry
right down to Green Lane these days . Roman Catholic services 1st held in rooms
above Cowkeeper,s Cottage in Meadow Lane b/4 St Annes built in 1860 approx.
Tranmere independent town b/4 Birkenhead Police were formed . This makes
your Ancestor and his employer very interesting to Local Historians

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#447611 - 27th Nov 2010 1:52pm Re: tranmere [Re: littlestan]
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Chriskay Many thanks for map it covers what i am after. First part of Meadow Lane and the shop that was on the corner of Alison St and Livingstone Road,also house in Livingston Road whose back door is on Dee St

Alan

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#447617 - 27th Nov 2010 2:24pm Re: tranmere [Re: chriskay]
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Thanks for location of Oak tree place on 1910 map.I had seen this map of Tranmere but couldn't find where my ancestor lived. I'm guessing that these terraced streets of which oak tree place is one, are later buildings than the ones that would have been there in 1851.
EllyMay

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#447620 - 27th Nov 2010 2:39pm Re: tranmere [Re: littlestan]
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I wish i could tell you more. It's been a stuggle searching for Murphy ancestors in the North West sleep In 1841 Thomas was stationed at Ridgefield off Deansgate in Manchester, the police force only being set up in the 1830s(I think). He was PC 69 and recieved a merit badge for his services in Manchester, This information was kindly supplied to me by the Manchester Police archives.Does anyone know where the Meadow Lane archives would be? It would be such fun to find out more about him.

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#447633 - 27th Nov 2010 3:29pm Re: tranmere [Re: EllyMay]
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I think the police have an archives centre in Liverpool but do not know the address.They might have some information.
The only other option would be Birkenhead archives

email archives@wirral-libraries.net or phone 01516663903
Alan


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#447969 - 28th Nov 2010 10:45pm Re: tranmere [Re: alan128]
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thanks for all your help guys. Will email the archives and let you know what I discover

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