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#409019 - 19th May 2010 10:59am New Unmarked Police Car on Wirral *****
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Just to let you all know that there is a new unmarked car on the prowl.

It's a rather nice dark blue (non metallic) BMW 535 Estate, Index PN10 LAA.

Very nice car but all the gadgets are a lot smaller so harder to spot - apart from the mahooosive strobe lights on the wing mirrors and the 2 wanging great aerials on the back. The fin on the top has ANPR built in and the info board folds down so that it's not visible unless in use. The front facing camera is a lot smaller than the usual block jobs too.

Happy driving people wink
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#409022 - 19th May 2010 11:15am Re: New Unmarked Police Car on Wirral [Re: Wench]
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Personally, I have never agreed with unmaked cars! It is very cloak and dagger tactics!
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#409024 - 19th May 2010 11:19am Re: New Unmarked Police Car on Wirral [Re: Nigel]
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#409027 - 19th May 2010 11:23am Re: New Unmarked Police Car on Wirral [Re: bert1]
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Originally Posted By: bert1
If you don't break the law, you have nothing to fear.


I undertsand your point Bert1, But should they not show themselves? Why this cloak and dagger approach?
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#409028 - 19th May 2010 11:26am Re: New Unmarked Police Car on Wirral [Re: Nigel]
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I see both sides, a marked car may stop someone doing something wrong, and preventing an incident, though an unmarked car can catch people doing what they do when they think no-one is watching.
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#409029 - 19th May 2010 11:30am Re: New Unmarked Police Car on Wirral [Re: Nigel]
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I imagine its sole purpose is to catch law breakers as far as traffic offences are concerned, We all know that when there's a marked police car is on show there is a law abiding bubble right around it, when it disappears the loons return to bad driving, speeding etc. Knowing there's a unmarked car on the roads drivers may take more care of what their actually doing.
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#409035 - 19th May 2010 12:36pm Re: New Unmarked Police Car on Wirral [Re: bert1]
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oh yer unmarked cars pulling young kids up that may be doing nothing but walking along minding there own buisness and thnen you get the sweeny copswith a bad attertude no wonder kids hate coppers i hate coppers that drlvre unmarked cars i myself wouldent stop for one if people dont do nothin leave them alone should be in marked cars or even better get them out on foot save fuel give them all cars and you wont see them give them a good pair of shoes and a route to keep to let the comunity cars do there work or the traffic cops to many coppers driving and not on the beat why call a bobby a beat bobby if there never on the beat
waste of money could of gone on sumit like a new ambulance to help thi sick


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#409062 - 19th May 2010 2:21pm Re: New Unmarked Police Car on Wirral [Re: scary]
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TBH If you have done nothing wrong, then you have nothing to worry about.

What if one of the kids had been hiding a knife which appears to be rife these days

Problem is, some think its ok to be antisocial, and they get a chip on their shoulder about being stopped by the police. But like I said, if you have done nothing wrong, and are polite and respond without attitude, then you will get treated the same.

Ive been stopped plenty of times, and sure, it can be an inconvenience, though TBH its good to see they are doing these sort of checks etc
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#409063 - 19th May 2010 2:40pm Re: New Unmarked Police Car on Wirral [Re: StuyMac]
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Good ol' 5 0... good to see they've got an estate to shove more of the scrotes in the boot.

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#409067 - 19th May 2010 2:56pm Re: New Unmarked Police Car on Wirral [Re: scary]
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Originally Posted By: scary
oh yer unmarked cars pulling young kids up that may be doing nothing but walking along minding there own buisness and thnen you get the sweeny copswith a bad attertude


It's a TRAFFIC car so unless you're doing something that warrants being stopped, it won't bother you. As for the attitude, you get what you give out. If you are polite and co-operative then you will be on your way in no time. Is it any wonder that some Police Officers have "bad attitudes" when they have to deal with people of the same mindset as yourself? no

Originally Posted By: scary
no wonder kids hate coppers i hate coppers that drlvre unmarked cars i myself wouldent stop for one
Not all kids hate the Police. This reply has me thinking why you hate the Police think I'm sure you wouldn't hate them if you were in trouble and needed them!! If you have nothing to hide, then what is the problem with stopping? That WILL get you in trouble as it's a Criminal offence.

Originally Posted By: scary
if people dont do nothin leave them alone should be in marked cars or even better get them out on foot save fuel give them all cars and you wont see them give them a good pair of shoes and a route to keep to let the comunity cars do there work or the traffic cops to many coppers driving and not on the beat why call a bobby a beat bobby if there never on the beat
They are still in marked cars. Once again, it is a Traffic car so they are doing their job. It is one car covering the whole of Liverpool and the Wirral. A Beat bobby is an old term but they do still have them. The problem is that the Government in their infinite wisdom have decided that it is more cost effective to replace the Beat bobbies with PCSO's who have limited powers. Do you think that most Police want to be stuck in the stations with tonnes of paperwork?? I'd say 99% of the Police I know (and it's a lot due to work) would much rather be out on the beat, but it's not always possible.

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waste of money could of gone on sumit like a new ambulance to help thi sick
So the Police don't help people then?? Who do you think it is that on many occasions gives First Aid to victims of RTA's or assaults etc? Having seen first hand what the consequences are of crashes and assaults etc, they do a bloody good job until the Ambulance service get there. It wouldn't be a waste of money if it caught a drunk driver or someone speeding, with no licence or insurance that ploughed into you or one of your family or friends would it?? The Ambulance Service are allocated their own funds so it has nothing to do with the Police.
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#409078 - 19th May 2010 3:24pm Re: New Unmarked Police Car on Wirral [Re: Wench]
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#409089 - 19th May 2010 4:54pm Re: New Unmarked Police Car on Wirral [Re: polo_phil]
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omg come on if your driving along minding your own buissness and legal at night done nothin eligal and get pulled over by the skummy coppers who havent anything better to do after alwready checking you out before pulling you over to see why you are driving so carefull if you think thats ok get a frigin life get out more sell the frigin cop car get frigin boots and earn there pay by walking in the area thats needed not to buy a car and hide around corners waiting for people hou aint done jack shit if you dont agree with me well tuff get out of the cars do some work if there seen walking arround and around then they will lose a few pounds and get healthy at the same time without having to spend thousands of pounds on a car that isnt even got police down the side this realy pisses me off as you see ime not a real fan of the police give them a coppers uniform it goes to there head

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#409094 - 19th May 2010 5:32pm Re: New Unmarked Police Car on Wirral [Re: scary]
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If you're perfectly legal then what's the issue?? You'll be on your way in minutes. Some people who are unfit to drive through drink or drugs do drive ultra carefully so as to not arouse suspicion - so by your reasoning, it's ok to leave them alone to carry on because they're driving "carefully". Random stop checks can also lead to people who don't have a licence being caught. Just because the vehicle shows as being insured etc does not mean that the driver is legit.

I'm guessing you don't understand the concept of "Traffic Police". It's a bit hard to be a Traffic Officer on foot raftl Also, if they sell the cars how do you propose they respond to emergencies as quick as possible? Magic?? Starship Enterprise Transporter??

The whole point of an unmarked vehicle is to catch those who are breaking the Law. A marked car, as previously stated by another member, makes 99% drive as they should but once it's gone, SOME go back to being muppets and think that the Law does not apply to them.

To say that every Police Officer that is given a uniform has it "go to their head" is a bit like saying everyone who wears a shell suit has an ASBO or everyone who can't spell or use punctuation is an idiot - it's just not true in every case is it?

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#409218 - 19th May 2010 9:55pm Re: New Unmarked Police Car on Wirral [Re: Wench]
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whats all the fuss about pulling young kids up when there walking along the streets. Its nothing NEW. In the 50s when us TEDS where walking along and there where more than 2 of us we where straight way looked on as a Gang and where always been pulled up. Its par for the course so stop the moaning about the police.
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#409222 - 19th May 2010 9:59pm Re: New Unmarked Police Car on Wirral [Re: jimbob]
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By the way in the 50s the polce cars may well have been Unmarked due to they where all black as well as 90% of all other cars on the road and had a tiny sign in the back that said police
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