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#406728 - 10th May 2010 6:00pm BROWN HAS GONE *****
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At last, the worst Prime Minister in the History of British Politics (to quote some Labour MP's and many Labour supporters), has announced he will resign.

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#406730 - 10th May 2010 6:02pm Re: BROWN HAS GONE [Re: MattLFC]
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#406731 - 10th May 2010 6:03pm Re: BROWN HAS GONE [Re: reddragon]
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#406732 - 10th May 2010 6:07pm Re: BROWN HAS GONE [Re: MattLFC]
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I'm sure that the election result would have been very different if he had gone a few months ago

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#406734 - 10th May 2010 6:10pm Re: BROWN HAS GONE [Re: MattLFC]
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Perhaps Clegg doesn't want to be shouted at all the time, talk about calling the shots with a minority party.

Its the same as many companies, some at the top are badly behaved and get away with it, but at the top of the best companies are level-headed clear thinkers.
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#406735 - 10th May 2010 6:10pm Re: BROWN HAS GONE [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Not yet he hasn't, maybe september
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#406738 - 10th May 2010 6:13pm Re: BROWN HAS GONE [Re: Victor_Meldrew]
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Not yet he hasn't, maybe september

He has announced he will resign, in my opinion, that's as good as - he now has zero authority in any respect other than ceremonial. He will remain a temporary PM to oversee the country (which is needed, regardless of how good or bad he may be) until a new Prime Minister is announced, whatever happens.

DD, im not fully aware so wondering if you know, but does Browns announcement to resign, technically mean that the Conservatives could form a minority government, regardless of the Lib Dems now? I realise they would have to wait for him to resign to the Queen first, but the announcement could surely put things in motion?

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#406741 - 10th May 2010 6:24pm Re: BROWN HAS GONE [Re: MattLFC]
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He has done the honorable thing and says he will help to form a stable government.

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#406742 - 10th May 2010 6:27pm Re: BROWN HAS GONE [Re: dizdazdoz]
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Not sure if its honourable, or just another desperate measure taken by the Labour Party, in a final bid to cling onto power... either way, he has done the right thing, and the decision will make the majority of the British public happy, im pretty sure the majority of Labour supports and MP's would rather have a different leader and Prime Minister, no matter how loyal they have remained to him and thier party/beliefs.

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#406744 - 10th May 2010 6:41pm Re: BROWN HAS GONE [Re: MattLFC]
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All this is the way I understand things.

Brown has only resigned as party leader, this doesn't affect the number of MPs, who is in power and who isn't. The Tories can form a government whenever they like it is only a matter of choosing cabinet members and other committee officials and members.

When they form a coalition government this is a legal undertaking with agreement from the queen to include another party, if there wasn't a legal agreement, every time they disagreed with the lesser party, they would just kick them out the positions.

I don't think the coalition has any legal compulsion on policies, so while they may agree to pass certain liberal policies through parliament - if they fail to do this then it is just like a WikiWirral barny, not a court or censorship jobber.
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#406773 - 10th May 2010 7:59pm Re: BROWN HAS GONE [Re: diggingdeeper]
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I thought Joe Brown had snuffed it then.

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#406793 - 10th May 2010 9:27pm Re: BROWN HAS GONE [Re: ]
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Gorden Brown has a constitutional duty to stay where he is until, he can form a government or the Tories can. If he can with the help of other parties, he will not step down as party leader/PM until the labour party vote for a new leader, it is quite possible the next PM after Brown has not faced a general election as leader of a party. Should the Tories form a government ,Brown will remain as opposition leader until the labour party vote in a new leader. Should add the process has until May 25th i think, for the Queen's Speech, for someone to form a government.


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#406798 - 10th May 2010 9:44pm Re: BROWN HAS GONE [Re: bert1]
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Looks like this is finaly going to be the destruction of the labour party if they take the libs on board. They wil be going round hugging trees next
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#406799 - 10th May 2010 9:45pm Re: BROWN HAS GONE [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Resigning in 'maybe August'. So he's not resigning then?
Jesus christ.
I'd rather have him stay where he is if it means Peter fooking Mandleson takes over. Please don't let this be true. The worst politician since Hitler.


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#406806 - 10th May 2010 10:04pm Re: BROWN HAS GONE [Re: DavidB]
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If Gordon Brown had stepped down before the election Labour might not have lost so many seats.

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