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I think its now safe to assume that Prime Minister Gordon Brown, and the "New Labour" Government, have now...
GONE!!!
However, as to how David Cameron can proceed is quite bizarre, as he does not know for certain as to whether or not he has the coalition with the Lib Dems until later on tonight; if that fails, a minority government it will be, although I do genuinely hope for a coalition for the good of the country, because we need a majority government, and I think the country may well benefit from a left-right government.
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The end of a great era, lets welcome thatchers love child, run for your milk!
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David Cameron is on his way to the Palace, though his car is stuck in traffic, and behind a learner driver lol.
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David Cameron is now officially the new Prime Minister after a 25 minute audience with the Queen! TIME FOR CHANGE
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What does this mean for tax? Child tax credits? Child nursey fees?
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bye bye it means, if ya poor he don't like you
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Nothing right now, we will have to wait and see what the new coalition plans are, but dont believe the shit that is flowing around Facebook about the Conservatives being the party of higher taxes etc... These are started by unintelligent Labour fanbois, who obviously only follow politics at election time, because the Conservatives have always been the party of low taxation and public borrowing, Labour has always meant higher taxes, however this ideology will be shot to bits right now thanks to the state Labour have left the country in.
The Tories did say they would protect tax credits for those households earning under £50k per annum iirc, which I know Labour took issue with, as it meant their own MP's who had kids would no longer be entitled to them. Quite why any household earning over 50k a year needs tax credits, I dont know, given the state the economy is in, it is completely unrealistic.
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bye bye it means, if ya poor he don't like you Funny, the gap between rich and poor, has INCREASED in the past decade, and then there are things like the 10p tax etc... It seems if you are poor, Brown/New Labour didnt like you either. Bitter Labour LOSER. You had your chance, and you SCREWED US OVER, time for the Conservative-Liberal coalition to fix Britain.
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I find it hellishly amusing the Labour "supporters" on Facebook, who have no idea about politics (the type that had never even heard of Nick Clegg until 4 weeks ago) or policies, and yet are ranting and raving about the Conservatives being in power. But then, factually incorrect posts and the lack of any spelling and grammar does not really show Labour supporters at their best...
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makes me laugh you live in lovely ellesmere port and you vote tory, and hang on was it not Gordon who rang vauxhall every week when they were going to close?
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Look, your a LOSER, face it, your poltical ideology has failed, and we are going to have to pay a very heavy price as a result of it. Well I say "we", had Labour managed to cling onto power, then your can be guaranteed all the doley's and the criminals in prison (at a cost of £28,000+ per year to the tax payer, when the average, hard working, tax payer, gets under £1100 spent on them each year) would be too busy playing on their PS3's and Xbox360's to worry about, it would be the hard-working taxpayers who would have had to pick up the burden of the debt - because Labour does not like people who work for a living and lead honest, and decent, law-abiding lives. Tax burden in 1997, with a booming economy and low levels of consumer and public debt - 39%. Tax burden in 2010, with a dead economy and soring record-high levels of consumer and public debt - 41% - and thats before Labour had even started their programme of cuts and taxation increases. Is it any wonder GM, and many other multi-nationals, see the UK as having a weak economical and viable future?? Just go back to your Labour chums, lick your wounds, celebrate the fact that you have managed to near-bankrupt the UK once again, hang your Gordon Brown photo on your "cool wall" of political heros, alongside the photos of Denis Healy and Michael Foot etc, and sit back and watch the Conservative-led government pick up the pieces once again and in time, build a stable and viable economy, that is not just built on a single philosphy, aka credit and debt, like you Labour supporters have been pushing for the past 13 years.
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Agree with Bert
It should be remembered that that British voter have never voted for a party leader and seeing as we vote for a constituency MP we have never voted for a PM.Whoever ends up as party leader/ PM is out of our control, though its beneficial to everyone if they have some idea who is at the helm. In the dog eat dog world of politics, now that we know that Brown is going because of Labours poor performance. Regardless of what you hear or read, the order of things for politicians is personal ambition followed by party protection followed by whats good for the country.
I can see if the Tories don't get the economy right it will all be blamed as Gordon Brown and Labours fault for leaving us in this mess - as if it's not something happening worldwide but in Britain alone
95% of the wealth in this country is owned by the top 5% so I've been led to believe so who's money was really being protected when we bailed out the banks
by the way I didn't vote labour
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whatever, we shall see
Don't have a cool wall tbh, getting a dart board though for christmas with Cameron on it. :-)
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As much as id have liked to have seen a bank fall, and as much as I believe the bigger "safe" banks like HSBC and Barclays would not have let it happen because it would have had disasterous implications for them, I actually think Labour, to their credit, took the correct decision in bailing out the banks - had they have fallen, the whole economy would be in total tatters.
However, Labour also got us into the mess originally, regardless of a global crisis causing the problems or not, there was zero regulation of the banks or the banking system, the FSA was funded and controlled by the banks so they were not a regulator imho, the likes of Northern Rock should NEVER have been allowed to only hold 5% capital compared with debt (and didnt need to, HSBC, the biggest bank in the world, holds over 100% capital:debt ratio, although is the only major Biritish bank to do so), and they further-weakened our economy by the fact we were living on credit (in bother the public and consumer finances) and didnt have a penny in the bank, so when the hard times hit us, not only did we not have a penny to help us along, but we had to borrow tens of billions from China and the like, at exactly the worst time in the last 60 years to be borrowing anything from anyone, add this to the fact our public debts were already at record levels, it meant they just kept soaring and soaring.
None of this can be blamed on the global financial crisis, Labour acted completely unresponsibly, as if nothing like the global financial crisis could ever happen, had they prepared for the possibility that it could happen, especially when there were many analysts, unpopuarly suggesting the sub-prime market in the US was going to crash and cause hell for years upon years before it happened, and indeed the likes of Vince Cable were warning of it and a national crash back in 2005 and even earlier, then we would have been in a much stronger position to get through it.
If you dismiss things you can't control as not a problem and only plan for the good times without thinking of the possibility of bad times, then you have to take the blame when these things go kaput and you end up in the shit, and Labour have found this out the hard way.
It still intrigues me that we have a deficit ratio larger than that of Greece, and are actually in a weaker position than they were before they went tits-up, and yet Labour did not want to cease government waste until next year, and were always admant the economy was still strong and everything was alright. It was this complacency that helped to get us into the terrible economic position we now find ourselves in, in the first place.
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