WikiWirral Wirral's Biggest Online Forum
Forum Stats
12225 Members
65 Forums
72751 Topics
980533 Posts
43 posts in the last 24hrs
Max Online: 7831 @ 8th Apr 2013 4:18pm
Who's Online - Click Me
92 registered (11kendo, 16 invisible), 1773 Guests and 183 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us

(Views 7days)This Weeks Most Read
Doris is on her way 943
TS Indefatigable 522
Patio work 427
vet fees 342
Internet Explorer Not Working 334
Is This ART ? 253
Chef's knife. 249
Dangerous Tumble Dryers 242
Seeking old pictures of Egerton Street area, Birkenhead 174
roofers 158
New General Forums
Is This ART ?
by granny
09:56 AM
Wirral track renewal
by snowhite
22nd Feb 2017 2:42pm
Ice in the 1800's
by granny
21st Feb 2017 9:47pm
Am I missing something ?
by dizdazdoz
16th Feb 2017 12:46pm
New Wirral History
Seeking old pictures of Egerton Street area, Birkenhead
by yoller
19th Feb 2017 7:53pm
TS Indefatigable
by granny
18th Feb 2017 3:32pm
RIP : Chris Kay
by granny
31st Aug 2016 9:25am
Children's home on the Overchurch
by xleahx
26th Apr 2011 7:01pm
423 Archers, Wirral Mark Rake, Wirral, Merseyside
by derekdwc
13th Sep 2009 10:50pm
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
fireworks on the Mersey last night
Hadlow train station
Topic Replies
Wirral Bus Review
by diggingdeeper
Today at 12:04 PM
2 x Sum 41 tickets Manchester 25/02
by turnip
Today at 07:47 AM
Dangerous Tumble Dryers
by diggingdeeper
Today at 12:23 AM
Doris is on her way
by diggingdeeper
Today at 12:09 AM
Patio work
by rossie
Yesterday at 09:34 PM
Sony Smartwatch 2
by Mike_Hoylake
Yesterday at 09:25 PM
Chef's knife.
by lincle
Yesterday at 08:51 PM
Aerial engineer
by Dilly
Yesterday at 08:15 PM
by thisledous
Yesterday at 06:33 PM
M Tu W Th F Sa Su
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28
Recent Posts : What's On ?
Lion Salt Works/Weaver Hall Museum
by venice
19th Feb 2017 12:19pm
Wirral TUC Meeting re Update on Wallasey CLP Suspe
13th Feb 2017 8:50pm
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#382006 - 20th Jan 2010 6:04pm Illegal Merseyside Pitbull spared

Illegal Merseyside Pitbull spared in dangerous dog trial

A MERSEYSIDE animal charity has escaped punishment after rehoming an illegal Pitbull type dog with an elderly couple.

Animals In Need in Melling were charged with possession of a dangerous dog after police officers seized Rocky, a Pitbull and Staffordshire Bull Terrier cross, in December 2008.

The dog had been rehomed with married couple Judy and Harry Groves, 69 and 72, who also escaped punishment on the same charge.

The couple, of Outlet Farm, Melling, and charity trustee Fran Ellis, 57, of Hall Lane, were given absolute discharges at South Sefton magistrates court.

Mr and Mrs Groves had given Rocky a home after staff at the Melling rescue centre had struggled to find new owners for the abandoned dog.

Rocky had been with the Groves for only a month when police officers seized him.

The "boisterous" three-year-old dog had been taken in by four families, but was too much for them all. to cope with and was returned

Destructive and difficult to look after, Rocky chewed up kitchens and furniture, the court was told – but had not bitten another animal or attacked a human.

Defence solicitor Lara Smith pointed to statements from Rocky’s four previous owners which described him as "a lovely dog" to prove that the dog posed no threat.

But when Animals in Need trustee Mrs Ellis called police out to check out another dog, Pink – a suspected Pitbull abandoned at the centre – the dog legislation officers noticed Rocky.

His distinctive Pitbull-like appearance immediately raised concerns that he could be a dangerous dog.

But Mrs Ellis told the court in her opinion "the category Rocky fell into was a mongrel with some Staffordshire Bull Terrier."

She added had she had any fears he was a banned dog she would have alerted the police to the fact, in the same way she had done with Pink.

But District Judge Michael Ableson told lawyers the case rested on "type" and he must be convinced that Rocky – a mongrel – was not of "Pitbull type" to find in favour of the defence.

In court the prosecution and defence both called on two expert witnesses who examined Rocky, and all four gave evidence before the court, two finding him to be of dangerous type and the other two disagreeing.

It was Peter Tallack’s evidence that persuaded Judge Ableson.

The former London Metropolitan police constable and dangerous dog specialist who has advised the Association of Chief Police Officers and DEFRA said that he believed Rocky was of Pitbull type.

Mr Tallack, who worked with Merseyside police in the wake of the Ellie Lawrenson tragedy, said Merseyside had a dangerous dog problem.

Telling the court of his arrival on Merseyside he said: "What shocked me and what became evident is that Merseyside and Liverpool is the gateway to the illegal breeds coming in from Ireland."

He admitted that defining dog "type" was subjective and a matter of opinion, but added that in his view Rocky was a good example of an illegal Pitbull cross breed.

Judge Ableson ruled that Rocky was of "Pitbull type" but used his discretion to save the dog from destruction.

The district judge gave all three defendants an absolute discharge and told them that they left the court with no stain on their character and would not be made to pay court costs.

During the trial he told prosecutor Lee Bonner: "As a matter of policy I’m a little troubled about why a 69-year-old woman and a 72-year-old man of exemplary character should have to find themselves facing this trial."

But he conceded that Merseyside Police "are damned if they do, and damned if they don't" seek prosecution in such cases.Outside court, Mrs Groves said: "We’re really looking forward to having Rocky back home. We don’t even know where he’s been held."

The dog will be subject to a suspended destruction order in case of any future attacks on animals or humans.


Local News : Advertising
Click me for more Information......

* * * Dentwiz : Paintless Dent Repair * * *
Now Advertise with WikiWirral.
WikiWirral stats 35,000 Page Views a Day +500 Search Engines.. Click Me
#382059 - 21st Jan 2010 1:19am Re: Illegal Merseyside Pitbull spared [Re: ]
Tilly Offline

Forum Addict

Registered: 22nd Oct 2009
Posts: 1702
Loc: wallasey
13 months incarcerated, hundreds possibly thousands of tax payers money, time and heartache for all the rescuers hoping to save rockys life...all for a dog who never hurt anyone.

Rocky will now have to live his life out wearing a muzzle and being kept onlead in public but he WILL live. Maybe in his lifetime this ineffective, costly piece of legislation will be repealed and Rocky will finally be allowed to run free again.

About DDA Watch
DDAWatch is a new initiative from the Pet Owners Parliament set up to help monitor "dangerous dog" legislation, to educate and assist those affected by it, while campaigning to find fair, workable solutions that can better protect the public without compromising the lives and welfare of countless dogs who have never acted dangerously.

DDAWatch can also offer assistance to owners if required.
Contact us on :0844 844 2990
or email


Moderator:  Mod 
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Wirral Bus Review
by Norton
Today at 11:42 AM
Aerial engineer
by ponytail
Yesterday at 06:01 PM
by thisledous
Yesterday at 04:44 PM
Chef's knife.
by Beethoven
Yesterday at 12:39 PM
Is This ART ?
by granny
Yesterday at 09:56 AM
For Sale & Free
2 x Sum 41 tickets Manchester 25/02
by turnip
Today at 07:47 AM
Sony Smartwatch 2
by Mike_Hoylake
Yesterday at 09:25 PM
Brother printer
by saltytom
Yesterday at 11:02 AM
Mk6 Golf TDI 1.6
by Cjoshea
22nd Feb 2017 11:05pm
TV wall mount wanted.
by j_demo
21st Feb 2017 7:53pm
Featured Member
Registered: 10th Apr 2012
Posts: 17
Newest Members
Bradshawbatho, raybb, CliveK, vonny, Vkj530
12225 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
New Wirral Info
Aerial engineer
by ponytail
Yesterday at 06:01 PM
by thisledous
Yesterday at 04:44 PM
Lion Salt Works/Weaver Hall Museum
by paxvobiscum
18th Feb 2017 9:19pm
Patio work
by steamfan
18th Feb 2017 3:45pm
Ceiling needs smoothing
by yr20405
15th Feb 2017 1:52am
News : New Topics
Wirral Bus Review
by Norton
Today at 11:42 AM
Dangerous Tumble Dryers
by diggingdeeper
Yesterday at 02:03 PM
Doris is on her way
by granny
22nd Feb 2017 8:43pm
by venice
17th Feb 2017 11:15am
On-street parking charges dropped
by oldpm01
15th Feb 2017 9:10am
New Enthusiast Forums
Chef's knife.
by Beethoven
12:39 PM
irish music entertainer for St Patrick's night
by kazaroo
22nd Feb 2017 3:07pm
Internet Explorer Not Working
by fish5133
22nd Feb 2017 12:25am
vet fees
by eggandchips
20th Feb 2017 12:01am
Sea Shepherd
by venice
16th Feb 2017 1:06pm
(Views 24hrs)Trending Newest Topics
Aerial engineer 161
Wirral Bus Review 79
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Fri 7:09am
Sunset Fri 5:41pm
Local Time Fri 5:30pm
WikiWirral Can . . . .