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#368657 - 27th Nov 2009 1:23pm Motorists could be fined for leaving engines runni
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Motorists could be fined for leaving engines running in Sefton



MOTORISTS who leave their engines running when stationary could be fined under tough new rules.

Sefton council’s environ- mental protection department (EPD) wants to hand drivers on-the-spot fines of up to £40 if they do not switch off their vehicle when standing still for more than a couple of minutes.

It follows complaints about cars standing with their engines running while waiting at level crossings, as well as waiting for buses and delivery vehicles to move on.

In particular, numerous people have reported bus drivers leaving engines on for up to 30 minutes.

The EPD argues leaving engines running is an “inefficient use of fuel” and releases gases with a “negative effect on both climate change and public health”.

The proposed “stationary idling offence” would apply to areas throughout Sefton.

If approved, it would give council officers the power to ask drivers who leave their vehicle running to switch off.

If they refuse, they could be fined £20, rising to £40 if it is not paid within a certain amount of time.

Cllr David Tattersall, executive member for the environment, said: “We are no way just going to start fining innocent motorists left, right and centre.

“It is more about advising people to switch off their engines to reduce vehicle emissions and prevent air pollution.

“If passed, the new regulations will target repeat offenders as a last resort.

“We have received a number of complaints from concerned members of the public about the pollution stationary vehicles give off, especially older buses and lorries.

“In my opinion, the worst offenders are police vehicles, who I often seen just sitting there with their engines on.

“I believe advice and guidance is more effective then rash measures.”

Bill Richey, chairman of North Sefton Hackney Drivers’ Association, said: “I can see the point of encouraging people to switch off their engines at level crossings because you can be kept waiting 15 minutes at a time.

“But from a taxi driver’s point of view, it is just not possible for us to sit there with our engines off in the winter months.”


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#368658 - 27th Nov 2009 1:26pm Re: Motorists could be fined for leaving engines runni [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: _jase_

“In my opinion, the worst offenders are police vehicles, who I often seen just sitting there with their engines on.



Im sure Beemertastic has explained that this is due to the amount of electrical equipment these cars have running - if you cut the engine the battery would be dead in minutes omg
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#368664 - 27th Nov 2009 1:32pm Re: Motorists could be fined for leaving engines runni [Re: StuyMac]
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Well yeah, but these people dont think about that.

They want to look after the environment...then if they are in trouble, and the police turn up, merely moments too late...they get an ear bashing because they werent there quick enough.

If they are so bothered about the environment..lets go to their houses and see how much electrical equipment is left on standby, lights left on, taps running whilst brushing your teeth etc etc
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#368678 - 27th Nov 2009 2:28pm Re: Motorists could be fined for leaving engines runni [Re: MGCraig]
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The world has gone crazy and just proves that most of these departments and councilors could be done away with and they wouldn't be missed.
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#368686 - 27th Nov 2009 2:56pm Re: Motorists could be fined for leaving engines runni [Re: bert1]
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If they were so bothered about the enviroment why not get rid of speed bumps and traffic lights that are on timers of an evening and change for no reason what so ever.
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#368688 - 27th Nov 2009 3:05pm Re: Motorists could be fined for leaving engines runni [Re: bert1]
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Originally Posted By: bert1
The world has gone crazy and just proves that most of these departments and councilors could be done away with and they wouldn't be missed.


It's totally bizarre, I can't even work out an argument against it as it just seems wierd and made up.
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#368690 - 27th Nov 2009 3:08pm Re: Motorists could be fined for leaving engines runni [Re: DavidB]
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Think of all the extra driving that will be done in the breakdown trucks on their way to all the flat batterys...
Bert's right just shoot them... is that what you meant by done away with? wink

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