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#325344 - 3rd Jun 2009 3:52pm TV/Freeview
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i probly should know this but my head is up my arse completely at the minute!!

i bought a TV with Freeview built in. wot do i need to do to get the Freeview channels? im assuming the channel would be the one called DTV - but then it just says no signal... does it require the analog TV aerial to be plugged in? (wouldnt make sense to me) or is there something else im missing?

thanks!

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#325345 - 3rd Jun 2009 4:03pm Re: TV/Freeview [Re: Davey_Martin]
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look for the button on the remote that will say something like tv/av on it.
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#325346 - 3rd Jun 2009 4:07pm Re: TV/Freeview [Re: Sanchez]
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it has source > dtv
tv
av
hdmi1
hdmi2
hdmi3
ETC...

i would have thought the freeview channel would be D(igital)TV - but when i go on there i just get "NO SIGNAL" - do i need to get a digital aerial or somethin? just read on google that my tv might require one if it doesnt have one built into it built into it. guess i need to check the back and see if there a bit for "DTV" - will go and have a mooch!

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#325347 - 3rd Jun 2009 4:08pm Re: TV/Freeview [Re: Sanchez]
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You definitely need to have an aerial plugged into the tv to get freeview wink
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#325348 - 3rd Jun 2009 4:12pm Re: TV/Freeview [Re: scoops]
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ok, cheers for the clarification - how much am i looking to pay for one that's worth having? 20, 30, 40 etc?

ta

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#325350 - 3rd Jun 2009 4:15pm Re: TV/Freeview [Re: Davey_Martin]
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the aerial will cost 20, the cable 5, and how ever much some one will charge you.
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#325353 - 3rd Jun 2009 4:29pm Re: TV/Freeview [Re: Sanchez]
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Just to add to this, if you already have an analog TV aerial, that should work. My 15 year old analog TV aerial works fine. The reason I mention this, is that some info on the web & "some" installers recommend a new aerial or digital aerial to hype up the cost!

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#325354 - 3rd Jun 2009 4:31pm Re: TV/Freeview [Re: topofthepops]
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Our freeview system works fine on the original analogue tv aerial

and yes, more than likely, you need to use the DTV option on your remote - i know we have to

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#325358 - 3rd Jun 2009 4:47pm Re: TV/Freeview [Re: topofthepops]
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Originally Posted By: topofthepops
Just to add to this, if you already have an analog TV aerial, that should work. My 15 year old analog TV aerial works fine. The reason I mention this, is that some info on the web & "some" installers recommend a new aerial or digital aerial to hype up the cost!

Nope, this is untrue im afraid - some locations "do" require a digital ariel, and a lot of locations will require a digital ariel to recieve all the multiplexes perfectly.

A digital ariel is designed to recieve a muh wider range of frequencies than a standard analog ariel, with a standard ariel, they are really only designed for recieving channels that are very close together within the UHF spectrum, whereas the DVB channels are located on a different part (400 - 900Mhz) of the spectrum, and each multiplex is grouped further apart. You may also find that a sandard ariel recieves 16 QAM multiplexes perfectly, but struggles with 64 QAM multiplexes and even vice versa, due to the quality of the ariel.

In area's with a strong signal reception, you won't need to upgrade because even an indoor areil will suffice, but where the signal may well be weaker, it is strongly recommended to change to a digital ariel.

If you want to try an indoor solution mate, the very best (fact, proven by the DTG) indoor ariel available is http://www.amazon.co.uk/digiTop-Amplifie...1996&sr=1-1 - it will recieve all digital channels.

With regards the TV itself, once an ariel is connected, you will usually find the Freeview installation menu located on the TV setup menu.

If an outdoor ariel is needed and get stupid quotes which you don't want to pay, you may wish to look into Sky's "Pay Once Watch Forever" package - for a 75 one time feee, you get a free digibox with installation, and then 4 months of Sky TV channels, after which, you are under no obligation to subscribe. Thanks to the bandwidth constraints of Freeview, Sky offers higher bitrate (and therefore quality) basic channels than Freeview, and also a much bigger FTA and FTV choice.

And no, im not a digital TV installer, and I know it's a con the fact that some people need to upgrade their ariels to get the full range of digital television channels, but don't blame me, it's the government who are forcing us into it, and not offering us any financial assistance when they will be coining in billions upon billions when they come to sell off the analog spectrum to mobile phone companies and the like...

If you have an ariel on your roof, try it, see what happens, it may well recieve everything without having to upgrade. Even if it doesnt, it may simply recieve all the multiplexes that you need it to (ie. the channels you like).

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#325360 - 3rd Jun 2009 4:58pm Re: TV/Freeview [Re: MattLFC]
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Originally Posted By: MattLFC
Originally Posted By: topofthepops
Just to add to this, if you already have an analog TV aerial, that should work. My 15 year old analog TV aerial works fine. The reason I mention this, is that some info on the web & "some" installers recommend a new aerial or digital aerial to hype up the cost!

Nope, this is untrue im afraid - some locations "do" require a digital ariel, and a lot of locations will require a digital ariel to recieve all the multiplexes perfectly.


MattLFC that's why I said "if you already have an analog TV aerial, that should work."

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#325362 - 3rd Jun 2009 5:01pm Re: TV/Freeview [Re: topofthepops]
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A lot of people find MuxA is hard to recieve within Wirral, due to the weakness of the signal being transmitted from the Storeton relay, this therefore usually does require a good digital ariel for a lot of people to recieve it perfectly.

5 years ago, my old ariel in my old house, was fine on everything but Mux2 and MuxA, but it didnt both me as we had Sky multiroom all around the house anyway.

wink


Edited by Mark (3rd Jun 2009 7:38pm)
Edit Reason: Toned Down To Keep the Peace

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#325364 - 3rd Jun 2009 5:16pm Re: TV/Freeview [Re: MattLFC]
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It would be really nice if the Storeton Transmitter covered a decent amount of the Wirral, it has a reflector to stop it going West because it would interfere with another Transmitter.

The coverage of Storeton hardly warrants the transmitter. Most of Wirral has to use Winter Hill at a rediculous distance.
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#325367 - 3rd Jun 2009 5:24pm Re: TV/Freeview [Re: MattLFC]
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Edited by Mark (3rd Jun 2009 7:39pm)

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#325371 - 3rd Jun 2009 5:33pm Re: TV/Freeview [Re: topofthepops]
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Ha ha forget all this digital aerial and freeview rubbish.

Get Sky's pay once watch forever package

http://www.freesatfromsky.co.uk/pay-once.aspx

Getting it installed here on my own TV

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#325374 - 3rd Jun 2009 5:39pm Re: TV/Freeview [Re: topofthepops]
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It is because there is little/no benefit in having a digital ariel installed, which is exactly what the general public are led to believe by people who go around making these statements, and this is why people, like yourself, think a digital ariel is really just an analog ariel with a bit of spin doctoring and the cost of one isnt justified. It is for this reason that 99% of people who buy an "HD Ready" television, think they are instantly watching HD, though this myth is gradually being eaten away courtesy of Sky's marketing drive for their SkyHD platform.

Im afraid, there are various technical differences between an analog ariel and a digital ariel - im here to help people on the basis of facts, not what the general consensus is, or the merchants of doom who spend thier time informing everyone is being ripped off when installers say they need a digital ariel and ariel installers are making a quick buck out of it.

Not only is there a difference between the actual ariels, but there is also a significant difference between the way DVB-T1 and ATT works technologically, it's basically like saying an analog satellite dish can recieve DVB-S, the dish can yes, but it requires a digital LNB, so whilst they look the same, they don't do exactly the same job (and I don't really want to get into the technicalities of the Sky minidish and its odd feedhorn etc).

You may find the word stupid offensive, I find the comment misleading and stupid, so that's your problem. Don't post such comments, and you won't be (easily) offended.

smile


Edited by Mark (3rd Jun 2009 7:40pm)
Edit Reason: Personal comments removed

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