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#324488 - 31st May 2009 8:44pm help trying to date a map
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just got a map I'm trying to date
It has on it
New Brighton Tower
Warren Station
Dock stn (now Birkenhead North)
Liscard and Poulton stn
Workhouse
Train lines and tramlines
I think someone mentioned in a railway topic that Warren stn closed in 1917
Could it be older than 1917


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Description: Dock stn

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#324494 - 31st May 2009 9:13pm Re: help trying to date a map [Re: derekdwc]
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That looks like a mixed up map, I can see parts that I thought were after 1920.
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#324495 - 31st May 2009 9:15pm Re: help trying to date a map [Re: derekdwc]
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I haven't got my map to hand but I think the Poulton cum Seacombe 1909 map gives what is now Borough Rd (in Seacombe) as it's previous name of Victoria Road. This part isn't visable on your uploaded pic. Need to find out when it changed its name?

Also some of the roads along Liscard Road from the end near Borough/Victoria Rd ie: Bell Rd, Rappart Rd etc were built circa 1897 - so if these are on the map then it must be after say c1900.

Sorry if this sounds giberish!!!!

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#324496 - 31st May 2009 9:21pm Re: help trying to date a map [Re: topofthepops]
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My road is on there and my house was built 1902.
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#324497 - 31st May 2009 9:24pm Re: help trying to date a map [Re: bert1]
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Re Victoria Road in Seacombe

Taken from a websearch:

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The name of the road was changed to Borough Road in 1918 at the request of the Fire Brigade, to avoid confusion with Victoria Road in New Brighton

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#324503 - 31st May 2009 9:43pm Re: help trying to date a map [Re: topofthepops]
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thanks
It has Victoria road seacombe on it
so must be before 1918
not a bad find for 80p
have framed it 30ins by 20 ins
It is a Pharus map from Philip Son & Nephew ltd
45 to 51 South Castle St

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#324507 - 31st May 2009 10:01pm Re: help trying to date a map [Re: derekdwc]
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Has it got any of the roads off Liscard Road than run down to Wallasey Town Hall on Brighton Street as in: Rappart Rd, Bell Rd, Buchanan Road etc?

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#324514 - 31st May 2009 10:21pm Re: help trying to date a map [Re: topofthepops]
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yes
also Littledale, Clarendon, Falkland Kenilworth

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#324517 - 31st May 2009 10:32pm Re: help trying to date a map [Re: derekdwc]
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Ok, so the map is between 1897 (when some of the streets were built) and 1918.

Good find like you said for 80p!

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#324948 - 2nd Jun 2009 12:10am Re: help trying to date a map [Re: topofthepops]
BigBadStuey Offline
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Warren Station closed in October 1915 if that's any help?

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#325001 - 2nd Jun 2009 12:14pm Re: help trying to date a map [Re: BigBadStuey]
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thanks for help folks

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#325263 - 3rd Jun 2009 9:43am Re: help trying to date a map [Re: derekdwc]
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something strange about the tranmere map,i live in marquis street and my house was built in the 30,s.your map shows the road as lord street which i have never heard before.anybody know anything about why this would be.have to wonder why the road would be there in the first place with no houses on it as it does not really lead to anywhere,that probably sounds stupid but i know what i mean lol.

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