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I see think None reliable then. Don't start me on poodles either - fookin hate the evil little critters!!


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I agree, the larger the breed the more damage it can and will do to its victims, but the main aim is not to have any breed bite or attack regardless of its size. It is not always down to how the animal is raised, our problem is we tend to put to much trust in our dogs, what we should remember, most fatal dog attacks take place in the home against family members of the dogs owners. Territorial thing again.


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There are ways round that though. Just because a baby comes into the house does not mean that the dog has to go.

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Jaci, when i had my German Shepherds and the press constantly reported bad and untrue things about them, The German Shepherd club in assosiation with the RSPCA and crufts often published a list of dog bites. Even then about 15-20 years ago it was hard to believe, i cant remember the full list but the GS was 7 on the list, i do remember the first 4, LAB, poodle, Doberman, Yorkie, hard to believe i know.


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I can't stand poodles - vicious critters!! I've had nothing but bad experiences with them and Jack Russells. I'd rather be in a room with 100 Japanese Tosa's than 10 poodles or Jack Russells!


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Originally Posted by bert1
I agree, the larger the breed the more damage it can and will do to its victims, but the main aim is not to have any breed bite or attack regardless of its size. It is not always down to how the animal is raised, our problem is we tend to put to much trust in our dogs, what we should remember, most fatal dog attacks take place in the home against family members of the dogs owners. Territorial thing again.


Hear Hear !!!

People do put too much trust in their dogs, and it is seen as the pack, and terriotorial problem. My Aunt in London has 4 dogs, Rottweiler, Border Collie, Collie Cross and some mongrel thing. George the collie cross is the only male, so its his group, Millie the Rotty is the Alpha Female, and wont hesitate to let Flo the border collie realise this.

When around them, even though they dont see me much, I ensure they know Im in charge, dont take any messing around of them, which is why Millie is as docile as a teddy. However, when she gets excited, she can get a bit nippy, and with 2 young kids and horses around, thats not good. You can have a good dog, or a bad dog, but either way at some point their instincts WILL kick in, whatever the circumstance. Unfortunately with Rottweilers, this usually results in them being put down, as they can be dangerous if they want to be... but other than that they are a gorgeous, docile breed, and Im sure Ste and Wheels can vouch for that.


DiggingDeeper.. in terms of not being able to do anything during an attack, Ive always been told that if a dog attacks someone, make straight for the legs, and snap them sideways. This snaps their ribs, and unfortunately will kill the dog, but Id rather a dead dog, than a dead child. Act first, face the consequences later happy


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Originally Posted by AlfaCraig
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DiggingDeeper.. in terms of not being able to do anything during an attack, Ive always been told that if a dog attacks someone, make straight for the legs, and snap them sideways. This snaps their ribs, and unfortunately will kill the dog, but Id rather a dead dog, than a dead child. Act first, face the consequences later happy


This was stated as the way of defending yourself from an Alsation, which is relatively long legged and not particularly strong dog - another reported method with an Alsation is to put your fist down its throat.

With a pitbull these things don't work - the only thing I can think of is the universal animal deterent (homo sapiens excluded in some cases - perportedly) shove something up its bum. But I wouldn't like to try it, but needs must, if a child is being attacked what else could I do? People have hit Pitbulls with hammers before now and the bloomin' things still won't let go!


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