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#311999 - 23rd Apr 2009 12:12pm inspections at Liverpool Childwall Valley primary
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Packed lunch inspections at Liverpool's Childwall Valley primary


A CITY primary school is inspecting pupils’ lunchboxes to ensure they are up to scratch. Those children not adhering to the new healthy food guidelines which have come into force at Childwall Valley CE primary are falling foul of daily lunchtime “police”.

Staff finding prohibited sugar and fat-laden products are confiscating the food and drink from guilty pupils’ lunchboxes.

The school has written to parents saying its healthy push is part of “our responsibility to teach children how to eat healthily”.

But the move has sparked anger from parents – with some so irate they are now feeding their children at home instead.

They say the school should not be removing items they have paid for and are furious the food is being plucked from the lunchboxes without their prior consent.

Parents’ anger intensified after Monday’s crackdown – which saw items ranging from flavoured water, fruit juice, foil sealed chicken and biscuits taken – was done as pupils who eat school dinners were allowed to tuck into chocolate brownies and ice-cream.

Parents are also unhappy that only after two days of their pupils having food and drink confiscated did the school send out a clarification letter and revised list of items..

The letter apologised for issuing a leaflet full of packed lunch ideas, some including banned items like crisps and cookies, when the policy guidelines were sent to parents on March 19.

The only prohibited foods listed in the letter were “snacks such as crisps and confectionery such as chocolate bars, chocolate biscuits and sweets” and fruit juice was listed as a permitted item.

But in the clarification letter sent out on Tuesday the list of banned items had been extended to include processed meat products and fruit juices due to their high sugar content.

The school’s headteacher, Kevin Basnett, last night stressed the changes were done after a questionnaire and extensive consultation of parents – 86% of whom supported the move.

He said the policy had been approved by Liverpool council and Liverpool PCT.

He stressed pupils were not having their bags searched and “everything taken is given back at the end of the day.”

Those breaking the rules were offered healthy alternatives.

But many parents are furious.

Helen Phillips, 34, yesterday fed her son Dylan, 11, at home in protest claiming he was “dehydrated” after having orange drink Capri Sun taken off him, even though fruit juice was permitted on the original policy document.

She said: “I am all for healthy eating, but the way it has been enforced is disgusting.”

Guidelines from the government-backed School Food Trust recommends that, prior to confiscating items, schools “inform parents of this beforehand”.

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#312005 - 23rd Apr 2009 12:30pm Re: inspections at Liverpool Childwall Valley primary [Re: ]
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I'm out of touch with the inside of schools these days - have the water fountains been removed????
I can't believe that water was not available for Darling Dylan to drink! Capri Sun can hardly be called a healthy fruit drink for goodness sake


Edited by Softy_Southerner (23rd Apr 2009 12:31pm)

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#312022 - 23rd Apr 2009 1:01pm Re: inspections at Liverpool Childwall Valley primary [Re: Softy_Southerner]
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Oh for f*** sake will people let children be children when there old enough to understand to eat healthy then so be it but children should be allowed to treat them selves and allow there own food as long as they have fruit and proper sandwhiches who cares whats in lunch boxes also what do they do with the FOOD ? Bin it well if they do bin it then thats just a waste of food and parents money and it should not be allowed the school is a disgrace for allowing idiot teacher inspect childrens lunch boxes who cares at the end of the day what a child eats is up to the parents not the schools so it should be abolished cause at the end of the day its not going to kill them is it ??? Anyway enouch rambiling.. smile
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#312025 - 23rd Apr 2009 1:07pm Re: inspections at Liverpool Childwall Valley primary [Re: SoundLad]
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raftl

OK - get this:

I went on a school trip to Liverpool Museum with my 5 year-old's class recently.
Another girl in the group had the following in her lunch:

2 rounds of sandwiches
2 packets of crisps
4 fruit shoots
a milkybar dessert
2 milkyway bars
2 satsumas

She started with a milkyway.

She wasn't obese either.
I think her parents thought she was away for the weekend omg
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#312031 - 23rd Apr 2009 1:17pm Re: inspections at Liverpool Childwall Valley primary [Re: MissGuided]
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I ate chalk when I was little. I also remember eating mud. My parents would be sent to the chair in this day.
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#312041 - 23rd Apr 2009 1:34pm Re: inspections at Liverpool Childwall Valley primary [Re: DavidB]
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I ate chalk when I was little. I also remember eating mud. My parents would be sent to the chair in this day.


I can remember eating "mud pies" that we made with wee and part of a worm for a dare raftl We also used to suck the syrupy stuff out of the bottom of honeysuckle flowers and eat blades of grass (which no doubt had bee peed on by dogs, cats, foxes etc). We were never ill!!

I'm all for educating about healthy eating (although looking at me you wouldn't think I was a healthy eater raftl ) and I can see why people are getting in such a tizzy about this. On the flip side though, how many of the children will be getting a balanced healthy meal when they get home?? How many get a healthy breakfast before they go to school?

As for "poor dehydrated Dylan" - I don't think so love!!! Would take losing more fluid than a bloody Capri Sun to cause that! Have a word raftl


Edited by PaganJay (23rd Apr 2009 1:37pm)
Edit Reason: I forgot poor Dylan lol
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#312059 - 23rd Apr 2009 2:26pm Re: inspections at Liverpool Childwall Valley primary [Re: Wench]
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How many get a healthy lunch if they stay for hot dinners?
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#312066 - 23rd Apr 2009 2:40pm Re: inspections at Liverpool Childwall Valley primary [Re: MissGuided]
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Well if they are so keen on policing the lunch boxes of the children then one would assume that all school meals are healthy. Having said that......
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Parents’ anger intensified after Monday’s crackdown – which saw items ranging from flavoured water, fruit juice, foil sealed chicken and biscuits taken – was done as pupils who eat school dinners were allowed to tuck into chocolate brownies and ice-cream.


think Hypocrisy??
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#312067 - 23rd Apr 2009 2:41pm Re: inspections at Liverpool Childwall Valley primary [Re: Wench]
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Totally dude.

I give my kids packed lunches:
1. Because a school dinner now costs £2 per day per child
2. Because then I know exactly what they are getting
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#312069 - 23rd Apr 2009 2:43pm Re: inspections at Liverpool Childwall Valley primary [Re: MissGuided]
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HOW MUCH!?!?!?!?! They were 50p when I was at school raftl
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#312070 - 23rd Apr 2009 2:44pm Re: inspections at Liverpool Childwall Valley primary [Re: Wench]
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Exactly - and because we both work we don't get any financial help for this from the government. We get tax credits but just to cover breakfast club and after school clubs which is childcare. But even that is £jo.ke a week.
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#312109 - 23rd Apr 2009 4:41pm Re: inspections at Liverpool Childwall Valley primary [Re: Wench]
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Originally Posted By: PaganJay
HOW MUCH!?!?!?!?! They were 50p when I was at school raftl
Allowing for inflation and the length of time since then, that would be equivalent to about £200 now!
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#312111 - 23rd Apr 2009 4:45pm Re: inspections at Liverpool Childwall Valley primary [Re: Wench]
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What a crock of S***!
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#312121 - 23rd Apr 2009 4:59pm Re: inspections at Liverpool Childwall Valley primary [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Originally Posted By: PaganJay
HOW MUCH!?!?!?!?! They were 50p when I was at school raftl
Allowing for inflation and the length of time since then, that would be equivalent to about £200 now!


How very dare you raftl I'm not that bloody old snob
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#312182 - 23rd Apr 2009 6:54pm Re: inspections at Liverpool Childwall Valley primary [Re: Wench]
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Originally Posted By: PaganJay
Well if they are so keen on policing the lunch boxes of the children then one would assume that all school meals are healthy. Having said that......
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Parents’ anger intensified after Monday’s crackdown – which saw items ranging from flavoured water, fruit juice, foil sealed chicken and biscuits taken – was done as pupils who eat school dinners were allowed to tuck into chocolate brownies and ice-cream.


think Hypocrisy??



Not neccessarily. I would imagine the flavoured water, juice, chicken (?) were packed with preservatives and e numbers whereas, although not particularly healthy, the brownies and ice cream would be healthier (IMO) by comparison.

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