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#303067 - 21st Mar 2009 6:43pm PC named on BNP member list is dismissed
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Pc named on BNP member list sacked
Saturday, March 21 01:52 pm

A policeman named on the BNP membership list has been sacked by Merseyside Police. Pc Steve Bettley, of Merseyside Police, was included in the list of the far right party's entire membership register which was leaked on an internet blog.

The officer, who was briefly the driver for chief constable Bernard Hogan Howe, has been suspended from duty since the list became public last November.

A Merseyside Police spokeswoman said: "A Merseyside Police misconduct panel has dismissed Constable Steve Bettley after concluding he had knowingly been a member of the British National Party from March 2007 and up to March 2008."

The spokeswoman added: "In determining their findings, the panel confirmed there was no evidence that Pc Bettley had ever displayed any racist views or discriminatory behaviour in the workplace.

"The panel determined that Pc Bettley's membership of the BNP is a clear breach of lawful orders and police regulations as the party's views are incompatible with the duties and values of the Police Service."

A ban on serving police officers joining the BNP was introduced by the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) in 2004.

Merseyside Police Federation, which represented Pc Bettley at the misconduct hearings, said he accepted his name was on the BNP list but he denied being a member of the party.

He said he was enrolled in the party by a family member without his knowledge and he planned to appeal against the dismissal.

A spokesman for Merseyside Police Federation said: "We are disappointed with the finding and sanction of the misconduct panel and do not believe that there is any evidence presented to the panel which would indicate that he was knowingly a member of the BNP."

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#303167 - 21st Mar 2009 10:12pm Re: PC named on BNP member list is dismissed [Re: Wench]
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If a family member has added him and its police policy to not allow police officers to join the bnp then he is innocent.

But I did not know that police officers where restricted in who they could suppport.

Freedom of speech?

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#303170 - 21st Mar 2009 10:17pm Re: PC named on BNP member list is dismissed [Re: PhilH]
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How pathetic!
This countries really begining to piss me off! no

One more to the dole cue!

Retards no
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#303180 - 21st Mar 2009 10:46pm Re: PC named on BNP member list is dismissed [Re: _Ste_]
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Well I have to say, I think it's pathetic!! I don't like smack heads or alcoholics, and I will be honest with my opinion on that. I don't think they should be treated on the NHS while genuinely sick people have to wait in pain for operations or can't get the drugs they need for their illness, but I still had to treat them when I worked in the NHS and be nice to them!!

I can't see the difference!!

To my mind, the Police have just lost a bloody good Officer!!

Shame on you!!
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#303183 - 21st Mar 2009 10:50pm Re: PC named on BNP member list is dismissed [Re: _Ste_]
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Maybe he can get the job of BNP Membership officer


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#303185 - 21st Mar 2009 10:52pm Re: PC named on BNP member list is dismissed [Re: MissGuided]
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He should get his feckin job back!! Scrap that - he shouldn't have lost it in the first place!
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#303187 - 21st Mar 2009 10:53pm Re: PC named on BNP member list is dismissed [Re: Wench]
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Lets not be 'politically correct' about this, lets just call a BNP member a good old fashioned racist.

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#303190 - 21st Mar 2009 11:00pm Re: PC named on BNP member list is dismissed [Re: Shambo]
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Haven't we had this discussion before think

I've been branded a racist because I believe I should be able to celebrate St George's Day as the other countries of this Nation do. Councils are telling us that we can't have the Flag of St George flying as it may offend people who are not English!! WTF!!?!?! Nobody brands the Irish, Scottish or Welsh for flying their national flag - so why are we??


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#303198 - 21st Mar 2009 11:04pm Re: PC named on BNP member list is dismissed [Re: Wench]
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Who's stopping you putting your flag up PJ? I promise you, nobody gives a toss. You're not a football hooligan and this isn't the 1980's.

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#303201 - 21st Mar 2009 11:07pm Re: PC named on BNP member list is dismissed [Re: Wench]
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He should get his feckin job back!! Scrap that - he shouldn't have lost it in the first place!
Its called housekeeping - I would imagine the Police have to be seen to be doing their job when it comes to 'this sort of nonsense'. This man is an unfortunate casualty (scapegoat?), whether or not he was knowingly a member of the BNP. The falsely regarded perception of public outrage is a powerful thing.

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Haven't we had this discussion before think

I've been branded a racist because I believe I should be able to celebrate St George's Day as the other countries of this Nation do. Councils are telling us that we can't have the Flag of St George flying as it may offend people who are not English!! WTF!!?!?! Nobody brands the Irish, Scottish or Welsh for flying their national flag - so why are we??





Didn't you know - we aren't proud of our nationality. What the guardian-reading, sandal-wearers say, goes...

I should probably pull my foot out of my mouth on my BNP membership officer comment - just in case instant karma comes to get me... omg
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#303202 - 21st Mar 2009 11:09pm Re: PC named on BNP member list is dismissed [Re: Shambo]
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We had a big hooharr over it in Cambridge, and I know of a fair few incidents where people have been told to take them down in case they "incite racial hatred/tension".

I'm not a football hooligan now, but I've not been a nice spectator in the past shifty And that was the 1980's raftl

It just angers me that this 1 Officer has been hounded out of his job because he "MAY" be a BNP member. Just because his name is on the list that was printed doesn't mean Jack. How many people in the public service sector actually ARE genuinely racist yet get to keep their jobs just because they are not on some poxy list!?!


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#303218 - 21st Mar 2009 11:23pm Re: PC named on BNP member list is dismissed [Re: Wench]
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I think your uniform fetish is getting out of hand PJ. Police aren't allowed to be memebers of the BNP. Racist police aren't a good thing.

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"A Merseyside Police misconduct panel has dismissed Constable Steve Bettley after concluding he had knowingly been a member of the British National Party from March 2007 and up to March 2008."

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"The panel determined that Pc Bettley's membership of the BNP is a clear breach of lawful orders and police regulations as the party's views are incompatible with the duties and values of the Police Service."

Now that's just common sense. Nothing to do with 'bloody do gooders ruining the country', 'yoghurt weaving liberals' or 'political correctness gone mad'. Bye bye PC Bettley you racist scumbag. hi

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#303220 - 21st Mar 2009 11:25pm Re: PC named on BNP member list is dismissed [Re: Shambo]
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Can I just ask....how many racist police officers are there in any force, regardless of membership to a knowingly racist organisation?

I think this was about publicity - keep up appearances. He had to be made an example of. That order probably came from far higher that the Chief.
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#303221 - 21st Mar 2009 11:26pm Re: PC named on BNP member list is dismissed [Re: Shambo]
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What the hell is the problem with him being a racist in the police force?

He was only a driver so it wouldn`t affect anyone at all confused
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#303222 - 21st Mar 2009 11:27pm Re: PC named on BNP member list is dismissed [Re: _Ste_]
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Stephen Lawrence?

In 1999, an inquiry headed by Sir William MacPherson examined the original Metropolitan police investigation and famously concluded that the force was "institutionally racist" and has been called 'one of the most important moments in the modern History of criminal justice in Britain'.
"Q&A: Stephen Lawrence murder". BBC News. 2004-05-05. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3685733.stm. Retrieved on 2008-01-04.


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