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The yellow dot marks the approximate location of the old Shakespeare, seen on today's road layout.

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Originally Posted by marty99fred
The Shakespeare in December 1965.


Superb - Look at the water tower in the back - must ba 50,000 gallon capacity.
The railways behind the pub were the carriage sidings - known by some as Mason Street carriage sidings, which I can't readily work out as access from Mason Street would not be direct.

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What year is that map, please Bert?

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Originally Posted by yoller
What year is that map, please Bert?


Hi Yoller,

1967/70


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Thanks, Bert. Do you know where I could get a copy?

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Mason Street of course - now it makes sense - great map Bert - show the area before it was brutalised by the Tunnel approach scheme and before the Cally became marooned in the middle of the roundabout.

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This picture, captioned 1954, shows Chester Street with the Shakespeare pub on the left at the junction of Waterloo Place, just by the traffic lights. The Prince Alfred pub is a bit further along, directly across the road from the Shakespeare. The railway bridge, now demolished, used to carry trains into Cammell Lairds.

Although all the buildings to the left along Chester Street were demolished in 1966-1967 to make way for the flyover and underpass as part of the tunnel approaches scheme, Chester Street still follows the same general line today.

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Facinating and many thanks for the invaluable info, however I cannot find Waterloo Place or Wellington Place on my 1909 map, although I am sure I must have seen these places as a child but I cannot think where. I do remember the Wellinton Hotel on Borough Road at the top of Thomas Street but cannot think of where Waterloo Place stood Can you please offer a pointer.

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Central Station - Hind st leading into Blackpool st leading into Waterloo Place - Chester st.
Also got to it at the bottom of Thomas st and Jackson st and Tunnel Rd.
Nowadays it's just by PC World in rock retail park

Top of Thomas st was the Borough Hotel

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Originally Posted by Reno37
Facinating and many thanks for the invaluable info, however I cannot find Waterloo Place or Wellington Place on my 1909 map, although I am sure I must have seen these places as a child but I cannot think where. I do remember the Wellinton Hotel on Borough Road at the top of Thomas Street but cannot think of where Waterloo Place stood Can you please offer a pointer.

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I think there may be a bit of confusion over the location of the Shakespeare because Norton referred to 'Wellington Place' in his previous posting, when I think he meant Waterloo Place. As far as I remember, there was no Wellington Place in this part of Birkenhead.

You can't see Waterloo Place on the Godfrey 1909 map because it is not shown - the map is cut off at the southern end and does not go far enough down to reach Waterloo Place. But if you follow Derek's directions, you can reach what remains of Waterloo Place today.

There was a Wellington Hotel, at the junction of The Haymarket and the extreme eastern end of Grange Road, just across from the top of Jackson Street.

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Many Thanks to all you very knowledgable Wirral Folk. Yes, I now know exactly where Waterloo Place once stood and the great pubs that stood there. I now remember walking under the now demolished railway bridge at the bottom of Hind Steet near to the Gas Works. Thanks again for jogging my memory. Best Wishes to all for your invaluable help.

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Hiya - On some threads I see a link to an image posted but whenever I click them I see 'you do not have access to download this attachment' Can anyone help please?


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