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#292030 - 14th Feb 2009 12:17am 13 year old is a dad
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This is just mad.. I mean he dont even look 13 for crying out loud..

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#292032 - 14th Feb 2009 12:19am Re: 13 year old is a dad [Re: SoundLad]
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i have just seen this on the News. fookin nuts. no

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#292033 - 14th Feb 2009 12:22am Re: 13 year old is a dad [Re: ]
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#292037 - 14th Feb 2009 12:28am Re: 13 year old is a dad [Re: _Ste_]
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I know.. When i was his age i looked like that i didnt look 13 at all i looked about 8 i never thought about sex and wot nots all i was intrested in was getting dirty and arsing about being a child that i was supposed to be.. Not think about starting a family its just crazy im speechless..
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#292065 - 14th Feb 2009 9:26am Re: 13 year old is a dad [Re: SoundLad]
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His parents should've known better than to show his picture in the papers, it'll haunt him forever now people know who he is. Guess it all came down to payment & i bet the poor little bugger never sees a penny of it, i cant imagine it being put in the bank for his or his childs future.

I think his parents should be prosecuted it's apalling.

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#292067 - 14th Feb 2009 9:30am Re: 13 year old is a dad [Re: Razzi]
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This story really annoyed me, i seen this on Sky News yesterday.
The parents should get fined, and the snotty nosed lad when he said ile be a good dad, he carnt even wipe his own ass properly and he thinks he can look after a Baby.

I but the police would of took action if the girl was 13 and the lad was 15.
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#292070 - 14th Feb 2009 9:38am Re: 13 year old is a dad [Re: Mr_Ice_Man]
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this whole story is fooked up.
parents should take some blame also
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#292090 - 14th Feb 2009 1:45pm Re: 13 year old is a dad [Re: uggla]
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A boy who became a father aged 13 has provoked a fierce political debate over the high rate of teenage pregnancies in the UK.

The case of Baby-faced Alfie Patten - who was aged just 12 when the Baby was conceived - exemplified the "complete collapse" of parts of society, it has been claimed.

Conservative leader David Cameron said it showed a worrying trend of "children having children" that had to be stopped, while Children's Secretary Ed Balls said it was "an awful case".

The furore was sparked after Alfie and 15-year-old Chantelle Steadman brought Maisie Roxanne into the world at the Eastbourne District General Hospital, East Sussex.

The UK has the highest teenage pregnancy rate in Western Europe, but figures show the number of conceptions among under-16s fell by 1,000 in 2006 to 7,826, compared to ten years earlier.

Former Tory leader Iain Duncan Smith, who runs the Centre for Social Justice think tank, said the birth highlighted another case of "broken Britain" where "anything goes".

He said: "It's not being accusative, it's about pointing out the complete collapse in some parts of society of any sense of what's right and wrong.

"There is no opprobrium any more about behaviour and quite often children witness behaviour that's aggressive, violent, rude and sexual. It's as if no-one is saying this is wrong."

Prime Minister Gordon Brown did not comment directly on the case but said "all of us would want to avoid teenage pregnancies".

Mr Cameron said: "It is really worrying that in our country today you've got children having children.

"Obviously we all hope that these very, very young children will grow up and be good parents, but frankly parenthood isn't something that they should have been thinking about. That's what's gone wrong and we've got to put it right."

Mr Balls said: "It's just an awful case. It's unusual, it's very rare, but you look at that young lad being a dad when he is so young - and also the teenage girl - and you think it's not right, this looks so terrible. It has got to be sorted out.

"I want those kids to be safe and also the young child as well, and I want us to do everything we can as a society to make sure we keep teenage pregnancies coming down."

"I think like most parents, like most people, I saw that photo today and I was appalled. It's just not right."

Eastbourne Tory MP Nigel Waterson said the birth raised "huge" questions about sex education and the sexualisation of British society.

East Sussex County Council said the teenage parents would be supported with intensive monitoring and health visitor support

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#292712 - 17th Feb 2009 7:59pm Re: 13 year old is a dad [Re: ]
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So why is the girl not being prosecuted for one of the following:-

Sexual assault of a child under 13

Causing or inciting a child under 13 to engage in sexual activity

The girl was over 13 and the lad was under 13 so this is a clear cut case. You cannot use public interest as a defense because this behaviour is against the public interest.

If this behaviour is condoned them it will encourage not discourage other kids. A totally wrong message is being sent out.

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#292716 - 17th Feb 2009 8:08pm Re: 13 year old is a dad [Re: diggingdeeper]
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nice point mate?
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#292734 - 17th Feb 2009 8:41pm Re: 13 year old is a dad [Re: TRANCENTRAL]
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it made me sad just looking at the boy holding his Baby-sad because how at his age how would he know what a small Baby needed,burping feeding etc .children having children ,i do think the parents havent done any parenting on this at all

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#292736 - 17th Feb 2009 8:44pm Re: 13 year old is a dad [Re: marilyn]
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another good point!
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#292739 - 17th Feb 2009 8:47pm Re: 13 year old is a dad [Re: marilyn]
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Schoolboy father: Alfie Patten 'distraught' at claims Maisie not his.
Alfie Patten is "distraught and devastated" by claims that he is not the father of baby Maisie, after two other teenagers claimed they had a relationship with his girlfriend.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/4...ie-not-his.html

IMO he doesn't look physically old enough to father a child.

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#292740 - 17th Feb 2009 8:50pm Re: 13 year old is a dad [Re: Shambo]
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Thirteen-year-old Alfie Patten, who is said to have fathered a Baby with Chantelle Steadman, 15, is to take a paternity test which will be paid for by his local authority, it was claimed.

The grandmother of Baby Maisie said that social services had agreed to carry out the DNA test on the boy at a reported cost of around £300.

Chantelle has said Alfie is the father of her one-week-old daughter.

The lad, who lives with his mother Nicola in Hailsham, East Sussex, pledged to take a test after two other boys claimed they had also slept with Chantelle.

Chantelle's mother Penny told The Sun: "Social services agreed to do (the test) for the sake of the children.

"The sooner it's done the sooner Chantelle and Alfie can get on with being parents."

East Sussex County Council's director of children's services Matt Dunkley told the paper there were "exceptional circumstances" as the case was given priority.

Alfie was just 12 when Baby Maisie was conceived but said after her birth that he would stand by and support Chantelle with the Baby.

The child is believed to be living with Chantelle and her parents at their home in Eastbourne.

East Sussex County Council said previously Chantelle, Alfie and Maisie were receiving "a package of support".


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/4...rnity-test.html

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#292747 - 17th Feb 2009 9:10pm Re: 13 year old is a dad [Re: Shambo]
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Alfie was on sky News the other day. the reporter ask him how he was going to support the Baby financially. he look at his mum and said whats financially mean. no. his mum laughed. omg


fookin said no

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