WikiWirral values you and your opinion.
Forum Stats
12226 Members
65 Forums
72760 Topics
980653 Posts
65 posts in the last 24hrs
Max Online: 7831 @ 8th Apr 2013 4:18pm
Who's Online - Click Me
84 registered (11kendo, 17 invisible), 1798 Guests and 169 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


(Views 7days)This Weeks Most Read
Doris is on her way 1335
Internet Explorer Not Working 414
Is This ART ? 411
Dangerous Tumble Dryers 361
Chef's knife. 360
roofers 261
Wirral Bus Review 261
Aerial engineer 237
TV wall mount wanted. 181
Removal of Shed Timber 161
New General Forums
Story
by venice
12:10 AM
Nigel Farage speaks at the CPAC.
by snowhite
24th Feb 2017 6:28pm
Is This ART ?
by granny
23rd Feb 2017 9:56am
Wirral track renewal
by snowhite
22nd Feb 2017 2:42pm
New Wirral History
Seeking old pictures of Egerton Street area, Birkenhead
by yoller
19th Feb 2017 7:53pm
TS Indefatigable
by granny
18th Feb 2017 3:32pm
RIP : Chris Kay
by granny
31st Aug 2016 9:25am
Children's home on the Overchurch
by xleahx
26th Apr 2011 7:01pm
423 Archers, Wirral Mark Rake, Wirral, Merseyside
by derekdwc
13th Sep 2009 10:50pm
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
Birkenhead Transport Museum 24th Feb 2017
fireworks on the Mersey last night
Topic Replies
What song are you listening to?
by snowhite
11:33 PM
St Gabriel's Convent, Liverpool
by cools
10:56 PM
Croxteth Hall (and park)
by diggingdeeper
10:08 PM
Patio work
by steamfan
05:51 PM
USB to wall socket
by venice
05:06 PM
Tranmere Rovers
by spinner1
02:20 PM
2x Brit Floyd tickets 3rd March City entrance
by ambersmum
10:46 AM
Removal of Shed Timber
by fish5133
25th Feb 2017 10:45pm
Is This ART ?
by Greenwood
25th Feb 2017 7:06pm
February
M Tu W Th F Sa Su
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28
Recent Posts : What's On ?
Croxteth Hall (and park)
by diggingdeeper
10:08 PM
Lion Salt Works/Weaver Hall Museum
by venice
19th Feb 2017 12:19pm
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#266409 - 27th Oct 2008 7:33pm Making way for Lairds?
chriskay Offline
Forum Veteran

Registered: 25th Oct 2007
Posts: 4868
Loc: shropshire
I found some interesting plans in the archives last Friday. These date from 1900 & show the existing outfall of the sewer
(& probably the drain from the culverted stream down the line of Borough Rd.), & the plan to extend them further out into the river. At the time, Tranmere pool, which was of course tidal, came quite close to Old Chester Rd. & a large area which is now Laird's was mud. You can also see on the plans the old Tranmere ferry jetty. The area South of this was also re-claimed & became part of Laird's.
You can just see on the map, Green Lane & the Royal Castle hotel, which is still there (but with a different name?).


Attachments: Viewing Permissions May Apply. Click Me
Outfall plans 1900-1.JPG

Outfall plans 1900-2.JPG

Outfall plans 1900-3.JPG


_________________________
Carpe diem.

Top
Wirral History Advertising
Click me for more Information......


Looking for a Service / Tradesman? Look in our Local Business Directory. Click Me
#266456 - 27th Oct 2008 10:54pm Re: Making way for Lairds? [Re: chriskay]
BMW Joe Offline
Wiki Master

Registered: 30th Apr 2006
Posts: 12369
Loc: Birkenhead
Great find Chris thumbsup

You're obsessed with this overflow tunnel, but you keep finding more & more great info.

Interesting to see the floating stage and Tranmere pool as mud.

So there was/is actually an outlet by the monks ferry slip way?
_________________________
Autowirral.co.uk - The Northwest's Biggest forum of Motoring Enthusiasts.
Cruisewirral.com - The Northwest's Biggest forum of Modified Car Enthusiasts.

Top
#266472 - 28th Oct 2008 2:30am Re: Making way for Lairds? [Re: BMW Joe]
scoops Offline
Smartchild

Registered: 27th Oct 2008
Posts: 531
Loc: Lurking
Your right Chris. The Royal Castle was remodeled and renamed about 5-6? years ago, it's now the Hotel California.
_________________________
If it's stupid and it works, it ain't stupid.

Top
#266481 - 28th Oct 2008 8:59am Re: Making way for Lairds? [Re: scoops]
bigalrobbo Offline
Newbeee

Registered: 26th Sep 2008
Posts: 20
Loc: prenton wirral
I think the stream you are discussing also runs through the building that was the old Shaftsbury Boys Club which is now a Gym by Blakes.
The basement of the club use to flood alot. I remember a large iron door that when opened showed fast running water which had to be checked by staff whenever it rained. I never found out were it went to after that. Hope this might be of some help.

bigalrobbo.

Top
#266488 - 28th Oct 2008 10:07am Re: Making way for Lairds? [Re: bigalrobbo]
BMW Joe Offline
Wiki Master

Registered: 30th Apr 2006
Posts: 12369
Loc: Birkenhead
_________________________
Autowirral.co.uk - The Northwest's Biggest forum of Motoring Enthusiasts.
Cruisewirral.com - The Northwest's Biggest forum of Modified Car Enthusiasts.

Top
#266498 - 28th Oct 2008 11:09am Re: Making way for Lairds? [Re: bigalrobbo]
chriskay Offline
Forum Veteran

Registered: 25th Oct 2007
Posts: 4868
Loc: shropshire
Originally Posted By: bigalrobbo
I think the stream you are discussing also runs through the building that was the old Shaftsbury Boys Club which is now a Gym by Blakes.
The basement of the club use to flood alot. I remember a large iron door that when opened showed fast running water which had to be checked by staff whenever it rained. I never found out were it went to after that. Hope this might be of some help.

bigalrobbo.


I think you're probably right. That would be the Happy Valley stream at a guess & would be part of this drainage system.
_________________________
Carpe diem.

Top
#266500 - 28th Oct 2008 11:18am Re: Making way for Lairds? [Re: BMW Joe]
chriskay Offline
Forum Veteran

Registered: 25th Oct 2007
Posts: 4868
Loc: shropshire
Originally Posted By: BMW Joe
Great find Chris thumbsup

You're obsessed with this overflow tunnel, but you keep finding more & more great info.

Interesting to see the floating stage and Tranmere pool as mud.

So there was/is actually an outlet by the monks ferry slip way?


This isn't my famous overflow tunnel, Joe. This is the original system to drain the Borough Rd./Happy Valley stream. It was because the system was not successful in preventing flooding (as far up as the library) that the overflow tunnel was built in the 1930's.

On the map, Monk's Ferry is off the map at the top. Here's a current map showing the relationship between the Tranmere Ferry, the new outfall & Monk's Ferry.


Cheers, Chris.


Attachments: Viewing Permissions May Apply. Click Me
2008-10-28 11-04-26_0155.jpg


_________________________
Carpe diem.

Top
#266509 - 28th Oct 2008 12:39pm Re: Making way for Lairds? [Re: chriskay]
BMW Joe Offline
Wiki Master

Registered: 30th Apr 2006
Posts: 12369
Loc: Birkenhead
Thanks for clearing that up Chris smile
_________________________
Autowirral.co.uk - The Northwest's Biggest forum of Motoring Enthusiasts.
Cruisewirral.com - The Northwest's Biggest forum of Modified Car Enthusiasts.

Top

Moderator:  Mark 
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Croxteth Hall (and park)
by diggingdeeper
10:08 PM
St Gabriel's Convent, Liverpool
by diggingdeeper
05:58 PM
USB to wall socket
by venice
01:04 PM
Tranmere Rovers
by cools
25th Feb 2017 9:17pm
Removal of Shed Timber
by Julie64
25th Feb 2017 1:31pm
For Sale & Free
Blaupunkt 32" tv
by jaylow
25th Feb 2017 3:04pm
2 x Sum 41 tickets Manchester 25/02
by turnip
24th Feb 2017 7:47am
Sony Smartwatch 2
by Mike_Hoylake
23rd Feb 2017 9:25pm
Brother printer
by saltytom
23rd Feb 2017 11:02am
Mk6 Golf TDI 1.6
by Cjoshea
22nd Feb 2017 11:05pm
Featured Member
Registered: 20th Feb 2015
Posts: 2
Newest Members
catchthepigeon_, Scoobyp1, Bradshawbatho, raybb, CliveK
12226 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
tommybarry (70)
New Wirral Info
Croxteth Hall (and park)
by diggingdeeper
10:08 PM
Removal of Shed Timber
by Julie64
25th Feb 2017 1:31pm
Aerial engineer
by ponytail
23rd Feb 2017 6:01pm
roofers
by thisledous
23rd Feb 2017 4:44pm
Lion Salt Works/Weaver Hall Museum
by paxvobiscum
18th Feb 2017 9:19pm
News : New Topics
Wirral Bus Review
by Norton
24th Feb 2017 11:42am
Dangerous Tumble Dryers
by diggingdeeper
23rd Feb 2017 2:03pm
Doris is on her way
by granny
22nd Feb 2017 8:43pm
Hezballah
by venice
17th Feb 2017 11:15am
On-street parking charges dropped
by oldpm01
15th Feb 2017 9:10am
New Enthusiast Forums
St Gabriel's Convent, Liverpool
by diggingdeeper
05:58 PM
USB to wall socket
by venice
01:04 PM
Tranmere Rovers
by cools
25th Feb 2017 9:17pm
Chef's knife.
by Beethoven
23rd Feb 2017 12:39pm
irish music entertainer for St Patrick's night
by kazaroo
22nd Feb 2017 3:07pm
(Views 24hrs)Trending Newest Topics
USB to wall socket 151
St Gabriel's Convent, Liverpool 29
Croxteth Hall (and park) 11
Birkenhead Transport Museum 24th Feb 2017 8
Story 0
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Mon 7:02am
Sunset Mon 5:47pm
Local Time Mon 9:05am
WikiWirral Can . . . .