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#235317 - 4th Jun 2008 9:53pm Brown Attacked Over Road Tax Plans
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David Cameron has told Gordon Brown he will be ousted if he does not drop his "deeply unpopular" plans for higher road tax on more polluting cars.

In angry question time exchanges, he challenged Mr Brown: "Don't you understand that if you don't get rid of it, they will get rid of you?"

But the PM said the Tory leader sounded "more like a used car salesman".

Some green groups say the tax should apply to new cars only, rather than all cars bought since 2001.

Owners of some of the oldest cars could face a tax rise of as much as 200 - a move which the Conservatives and many Labour MPs say will hit poorer drivers the hardest.

Gordon Brown and Labour are an absolute pisstake, they just take take take take take take from the poorest people to feed the richest, I hope to god Al Quaeda would bomb Downing St with them asleep, in fact, id fookin help them!!

I wouldnt even spit on Gordon Brown if I saw him burning alive!!

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#235318 - 4th Jun 2008 10:00pm Re: Brown Attacked Over Road Tax Plans [Re: MattLFC]
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Originally Posted By: David Cameron
"I know the Prime Minister thinks you fill up a car with a barrel of oil"

"I don't know why you're all shouting at me - it's the prime minister who's given you the lowest poll rating since Michael Foot."

"It's not my backbenchers who are telling me to get on my bike."

raftl

Quote of the week lol!

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#235371 - 5th Jun 2008 8:34am Re: Brown Attacked Over Road Tax Plans [Re: MattLFC]
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Love it happy although i hate politics Cameron is funny..
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#235494 - 5th Jun 2008 2:11pm Re: Brown Attacked Over Road Tax Plans [Re: SoundLad]
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Lol yeah, ya gotta love the exchanges between the PM and the leader of the opposition on PMQ's.

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#235499 - 5th Jun 2008 2:23pm Re: Brown Attacked Over Road Tax Plans [Re: MattLFC]
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Absolutely ridiculous.....My Cars less polluting than most on the roads...even brand new diesels...yet tax is still going up from 170 to 210 ?????????

AAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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#235501 - 5th Jun 2008 2:36pm Re: Brown Attacked Over Road Tax Plans [Re: MGCraig]
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Everyone, literally everyone feels the same mate, its yet another scandel by Labour, another stealth tax, and we are all going to lose out as a result.

Cameron argued though mate:
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He said the road tax rise was "not a green tax, it's a stealth tax". "What on earth is green about taxing someone who bought a Ford Mondeo five years ago?"

"This affects working people with second-hand cars. When they have to come next year and renew their road tax, they are going to get a pretty big shock when they have got another 100, 150 to 200 to pay," he said.

"We haven't got a problem with green taxes but they have got to be fair and the retrospective bit of this tax is not fair."

And I think Andrew Neil summed it up on the PMQ's review:
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"When oil hits $135 a barrel, and peoples utility bill are going through the roof, and you need a mortgage to fill up your tank when you go to the petrol station now, the market is doing all the greenery that people can cope with, there is no consitituency now for extra green taxes, when prices are going through the roof"

And Michael Howard also voiced his opinion when a Labour MP was trying to defend the tax as a green tax and that the government was being sensetive to people who are feeling the pinch:
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"But its hitting people who are already feeling the pinch, its not being sensetive to people who are feeling the pinch, when the spokesman for Greenpeace says this is the kind of tax that gives green taxes a bad name, you know you're on the wrong track, and you are on the wrong track"

But will Gordon Brown even take into account any of these opinions? No. Will he take into account the opinions or the fears of the people of this country? No.

We can all just fook off and pay the sodden taxes in his opinion, cause we are all nothing in the eyes of Labour unless we are minted (ie. we own a bank)!!

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#235503 - 5th Jun 2008 2:42pm Re: Brown Attacked Over Road Tax Plans [Re: MattLFC]
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I think in this instance....the Government need to take a major step back from "Greenhouse Effect"..and "Global Warming" Issues..

When is the next big election, cos I feel Im gonna have to vote for the first time....
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#235505 - 5th Jun 2008 2:46pm Re: Brown Attacked Over Road Tax Plans [Re: MGCraig]
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Lmao on Nick Robinsons Review (video about half way down the screen), Labour are absolutely torn to pieces over the question of if global warming is even an issue given the fact that for the past 10 years, the 4 major worldwide temperature monitoring institutes, including NASA and the UK met office, have all found temeperatures to be decreasing every year.

Labour have absolutely no answer to it, and he is basically explaining to the MP that it is nothing to do with a "Green" tax, because if it was, why would it be suddenly implemented now?? It is just a another fookin stealth tax.

mad mad

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#235507 - 5th Jun 2008 2:55pm Re: Brown Attacked Over Road Tax Plans [Re: MattLFC]
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Well I can tell you from studying it in both Geography and Geology during my Sixth Form Years...(Go Me)

There is No Such Thing as Global Warming

Volcanos erupting push out more co2 in one go than we could ever produce in over 10 years of current living. We are actually currently experiencing a mini Ice Age, where temperatures are lower than normal. When I say Mini ice Age, its been taking place for longer than Humans have walked the Earth. Any Temperature rise is completely normal. We Need to look at the bigger picture.

Does it make sense to anyone why there are 2 Large land Masses on earth made of Ice??

No, theyre only around due to the Ice Age. But were now coming to the end of that Ice Age. Instead of concentrating on Trying to find aternative ways to power industry and vehicles etc..we need to find different ways in Which we can protect Modern and Future Civilisations from Rapid increases in heat, which will and are taking place as we speak.

Hmmmm...wonder why no-one is doing that?
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#235508 - 5th Jun 2008 2:59pm Re: Brown Attacked Over Road Tax Plans [Re: MGCraig]
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Im not arsed anyway, id rather not pay an extra 100 tax than worry about what would happen to the country in 1000 years time.

Any Labour fans going to support them in anything they do nowadays? I see people pissed off to death with them atm, but never see anyone being able to defend their stupidity!

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#235510 - 5th Jun 2008 3:02pm Re: Brown Attacked Over Road Tax Plans [Re: MattLFC]
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Well, its been happening for a long time. Im sure there will still be people supporting them "For the greater good of the economy"...(Look at Afghanistan, Iraq etc)

But these are most likely going to be selfish old people, who dont care about the world of tomorrow, and rather how much they have to pa for healthcare, or pensions etc
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#235514 - 5th Jun 2008 3:13pm Re: Brown Attacked Over Road Tax Plans [Re: MGCraig]
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Lol yeah! Makes me sick!!

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#235528 - 5th Jun 2008 3:46pm Re: Brown Attacked Over Road Tax Plans [Re: MattLFC]
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raftl raftl raftl lol quailty matt happy

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#235529 - 5th Jun 2008 3:52pm Re: Brown Attacked Over Road Tax Plans [Re: ]
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Thats a pretty good read, especially whats going on in parliment.

Question is how much longer is it going to go on for....?

Labour surely wont win another General Election, but will it take different leadership to change current plans, or will realisation kick in before then.... think
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#235746 - 6th Jun 2008 2:27pm Re: Brown Attacked Over Road Tax Plans [Re: StuyMac]
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what peeves me off with this country as a whole, is everything implemented by the p-ss taking tw-ts in Downing Street comes with a threat if you dont comply. , kerching kerching Jail, Jail ,you need to look at it with a different perspective , why is everything going up , Olympics thats why , how are they going to claw back the billions of predicted overspend , by fleecing the good old joe public , we should adopt the french attitude mass strike , Any one want to join my lynch mob , spark up your flaming torches and grab your pitch forks were heading for London Town somad
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