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#228624 - 18th May 2008 11:18am land ownership
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i want to find out who owns the land behind the croft retail park. There is an unused part just to the side of the sun valley factory. How would i go about finding out?

My reason is i want to get full permission to ride my pit bike on it so that the police dont come down and take my bike off of me.

If i do find out who owns it what would be the best way in approaching the owner and ask them?

Its a shame as it is a good spot for riding with some cool hill's but people are using it as a dumping ground now for all there waste frown

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#228625 - 18th May 2008 11:37am Re: land ownership [Re: Wheels]
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you need to contact the land registry in birkenhead mate
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#228626 - 18th May 2008 11:52am Re: land ownership [Re: rentaclown100]
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once you find out who owns the land try and get your local councillor on side
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#228628 - 18th May 2008 12:17pm Re: land ownership [Re: jonno40]
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have you tried going down to vauxhauls thats a popular biking playground , you start asking permission you will get the big f-ck off mate , insurance, libel all that boll-cks, i would be very surprised if it mate, good luck anyway,
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#228634 - 18th May 2008 1:00pm Re: land ownership [Re: Sludge]
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yeah i know about that spot mate but i would like it to be legal. The bromborough place is well suited for pit bikes rather than the vauxhall place that is better for bigger bike's.

If the owner hired a jcb for a day and made cleared some of the junk he would make a mint. I wouldnt mind paying 15 a day to use it. smile

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#228639 - 18th May 2008 1:18pm Re: land ownership [Re: Wheels]
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Afaik, trespassing is only a civil offence and not a criminal one, you can't get "prosecuted" for it, although you can be taken to court if you break things of value.

The moment you break and enter though, it becomes a criminal offence.

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#228643 - 18th May 2008 1:27pm Re: land ownership [Re: MattLFC]
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the place is wide open to bikes and even cars. It is really easy to drive onto. So that is not the case. smile

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#228645 - 18th May 2008 1:31pm Re: land ownership [Re: Wheels]
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You should be okay then with regards that; im not sure on the legalities of the biking situation however.

You should deffo give it a try to get permission, even if you have to sign some sort of legal disclaimer regarding you're safety.

The only problem I forsee, is you are going about this the correct way, however if the place is wide open, there will be little way to distinguish between yourself, a legal user, and anyone else, so you may well find the cops could still be called.

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#228646 - 18th May 2008 1:31pm Re: land ownership [Re: Wheels]
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My mate went down vauxhall on his bike today.

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#228650 - 18th May 2008 1:36pm Re: land ownership [Re: Civic_Coupe_Sean]
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i dont mine signing a form. I'd keep a copy with me in my car to show to anyone that questions me being there.

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#228658 - 18th May 2008 1:41pm Re: land ownership [Re: Wheels]
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i dont mine signing a form. I'd keep a copy with me in my car to show to anyone that questions me being there.

What I mean though, is the police wont be too happy getting called only to find you are legally using it. Could cause problems.

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#228671 - 18th May 2008 1:52pm Re: land ownership [Re: MattLFC]
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surley the police would only be called if i was doing something illegal like riding on the roads etc or if i was being a neusence to local's. But i doubt that would be the case as it is out the way of the public houses.

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#228674 - 18th May 2008 1:54pm Re: land ownership [Re: Wheels]
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why are ye worried then?

smile

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#228685 - 18th May 2008 2:05pm Re: land ownership [Re: MattLFC]
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i used to ride on green lane field now the rock retail
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#228687 - 18th May 2008 2:06pm Re: land ownership [Re: MattLFC]
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cos i was just reading on a pitbike forum that a lad had his bike took off him by police while he was on private land. They said no mot. No tax. To insurance... Your bike is being crushed.... He had no permission to be on the land at the time.

Tbh i think there could of been more to it than that but he aint letting on. Maybe audiotastic could comment on that? Hmmm.

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