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#197372 - 21st Jan 2008 6:37pm Flood : UK underwater
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Just seen this on the News again.

Its so bad that were under water so much of the time?
I feel for those homes that are getting flooded and flooded
time and time again. I mean what chance do they have to
sell there homes when insurance is none existent?

I cant remmeber seeing flooding so often on the TV
and in the UK, it used to always be somewhere else.

Its right the Government should be investing billions into
flood defenses etc...

I'm ok where i live but for how long?
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#197379 - 21st Jan 2008 6:42pm Re: Flood : UK underwater [Re: Mark]
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Originally Posted By: Mark
Its right the Government should be investing billions into flood defenses etc...

I cant see what the government can do tbh, its the housing developers faults for building the houses on flood plains and the buyers faults for buying houses without paying for proper searches etc... When the rivers flood, the flood plains are there to do their job. If houses are subsequently built on flood plains, then they are comprimised from day one. Shouldnt be up to the government to needlessly spend billions of public money clearing up the mess that housing developers have left people in!

Here on Wirral, we are well protected, dont worry. Unless again, your house is built on a flood plain (which as you probably already know, yours isnt dont worry).

Its one worry I certainly wont have for a few million years, as you know yourself!

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#197392 - 21st Jan 2008 6:55pm Re: Flood : UK underwater [Re: MattLFC]
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On the 9th floor :r

Developers should pay the price as you say.
But the government has to take more responsibility.

Its not always the flood plain houses that get flooded?
As you say its concrete everywhere. So where a place used to
be fine in wetter weather is not sand bagging for protection.

But its almost a daily thing at the moment.
Flood warnings, Flood Warnings.

I think it will get out of control and they will being to
call these area's the "Wetlands" where people live and
cant move away frown

I got peed off when the felt blew off my shed a few weeks ago.
God knows what those people are going through living in
caravans week after week.
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#197397 - 21st Jan 2008 7:02pm Re: Flood : UK underwater [Re: Mark]
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8th floor tease

I dunno, its never affected me, but has affected some family living down Hereford way a few times. As you rightly say, the developers should be made to compensate people and forced to take more responsibility in where they build and providing adequate drainage for increased flooding in all future developments.

The government can spend money on increased drainage, but to actually solve all the problems that persist, it will cost hundreds of billions of pounds...

I dont agree with that much of our public money being used to prevent something that happens due to mother nature. We can't control nature, we just have to live with it.

Plenty of households in this country have plenty of other problems, but the goverment dont give them hundreds of billions of pounds to sort them; okay not on the same scale as this, but ya win some ya lose some.

Most of the people affected are those living in these half million pound commuter belt houses and the like, they have had a nice comfortable life for years, if not decades, a bit of flooding just equates to the stress and strains normal people on normal wages living in our "common area's" go through in their lives lol.

I suppose I just see it as though everything evening itself out, but also, that we cant control nature, so spending hundreds of billions trying to is a waste.

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#197411 - 21st Jan 2008 7:15pm Re: Flood : UK underwater [Re: MattLFC]
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We can't be having global warming if it's always raining!!! Can We ???
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#197450 - 21st Jan 2008 8:10pm Re: Flood : UK underwater [Re: Cali_16v]
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think The rains fairly warm for this time of year wink
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#197460 - 21st Jan 2008 8:45pm Re: Flood : UK underwater [Re: MattLFC]
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#197461 - 21st Jan 2008 8:47pm Re: Flood : UK underwater [Re: Wheels]
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Jack and jill went up a hill to fetch a pail of water apparently...

Was this the hill that you live on Wheels? Maybe theres more water then you think?

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#197481 - 21st Jan 2008 10:10pm Re: Flood : UK underwater [Re: MattLFC]
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Haha I just thought, does anyone recall the flood-water pumps that Aldi were selling a few months ago??

I bet some people wished they had bought them now!

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#197491 - 21st Jan 2008 10:28pm Re: Flood : UK underwater [Re: MattLFC]
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I'm slightly involved in all of this on the Government side and there's a whole range of factors involved:

1. Historically many cities have been built near fords in rivers or where two rivers join - oops

2. Houses have been built on flood plains - the planning authorities have to consult the Environment Agency who nearly always say "don't build houses there it's on a flood plain" but the planning teams can ignore the EA if they want (and regularly do) witness the outburst by Barbara Young (head of EA last year on this exact subject)

3. A large proportion of the flooding in the last year has not been due to rivers and lakes. There has simply been so much much rain in short bursts that everything becomes water-logged and huge puddles develop in any sort of depression in the ground - the flooding in Hull last year was exactly this. There is very little that can be done about defending against this sort of problem.

If I was building my own house now I'd go for what the Dutch do in high-risk areas - that is build houses with a car port and storage on the ground floor but no living space so the actual house only gets flooded if the water's 8 feet deep - in which case we're all screwed!

I genuinly feel for those of you whose houses are threatended at the moment but I'm very much in the camp that we're never going to control nature we've got to adapt to live alongside it - oh and that's going to cost some serious cash!

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#197502 - 21st Jan 2008 10:44pm Re: Flood : UK underwater [Re: AR_One]
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some good points there wink
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#197540 - 21st Jan 2008 11:15pm Re: Flood : UK underwater [Re: AR_One]
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Flood area

Crap im in a flood area frown
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#197541 - 21st Jan 2008 11:17pm Re: Flood : UK underwater [Re: IzzZzzY]
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Gitted for ya!

If I am, then I can only say one thing... come and get me floods!

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#197549 - 21st Jan 2008 11:20pm Re: Flood : UK underwater [Re: MattLFC]
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Sod that.. swimming in Mersey water.. urgh lol
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#197554 - 21st Jan 2008 11:23pm Re: Flood : UK underwater [Re: IzzZzzY]
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Sod that.. swimming in Mersey water.. urgh lol

Nah it will just up the value of my flat... I mean, ill have sea views!!

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