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#188810 - 15th Dec 2007 4:21pm Tranmere Rovers *****
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As an aside from my researches in the archives yesterday (see under Church Rd. in picture section), I made the interesting discovery that the Rovers ground was previously on the other side of Prenton Rd. West, where the Prenton Park Pub is now. The map is dated 1926. Among other things I noticed, apart from much less housing, was that the Lever Causeway hadn't yet been built, (I haven't got a pic. of that part of the map).

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#188813 - 15th Dec 2007 6:38pm Re: Tranmere Rovers [Re: chriskay]
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Looks like they built Temple Road School/Prenton Sec.School/Whatever it's called now (my seat of learning), slap bang on top of the original pitch !

Old maps are fascinating !!!!

Always thought the school was built prior to 1926, but maybe it just felt like it was built at the same time as the Workhouse nearby. It was just as cheery and enlightening as your average workhouse !! Sorry - drifting off-topic.

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#188817 - 15th Dec 2007 10:33pm Re: Tranmere Rovers [Re: chriskay]
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Brilliant, Devonshire park is actually a park!

I beleive (but only from what I've read on Wikipedia that Prenton Park has had three locations, where it is on this map, where it is now and even further along Borough road towards town.

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#188819 - 15th Dec 2007 10:47pm Re: Tranmere Rovers [Re: ]
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I always knew it as Temple Road school (& very down-market; but I went to Birkenhead School!!). Workhouse nearby? do you mean St. Catherine's, later to be a hospital? I sang in the choir at St. Catherine's church as a boy soprano in the late 1940's. I agree; old maps are fascinating. I suspect the workhouse pre-dates the school by many years.
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#188822 - 15th Dec 2007 10:51pm Re: Tranmere Rovers [Re: AR_One]
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Originally Posted By: AR_One
Brilliant, Devonshire park is actually a park!

I beleive (but only from what I've read on Wikipedia that Prenton Park has had three locations, where it is on this map, where it is now and even further along Borough road towards town.


I met a guy in the archives who said that the Rover's was started by a team from Cammell Laird's who first played in Birkenhead Park.
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#188823 - 15th Dec 2007 11:13pm Re: Tranmere Rovers [Re: chriskay]
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St Catherines used to be a Lunatic asylum also (what i read somewhere) smile
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#188825 - 15th Dec 2007 11:20pm Re: Tranmere Rovers [Re: SoundLad]
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Birkenhad Asylum smile Information on the Workhouse (asylum)
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#188835 - 16th Dec 2007 12:31pm Re: Tranmere Rovers [Re: SoundLad]
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Great post Chris, very interesting.
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#188884 - 16th Dec 2007 8:12pm Re: Tranmere Rovers [Re: BMW Joe]
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Yeh big thanks Chris smile
Interesting, I'm glad were all getting something out of it smile
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#191933 - 8th Jan 2008 1:19pm Re: Tranmere Rovers [Re: Mark]
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from my research the original site was owned by nuns and they moved to the present site when they aquired the old cow shed from a farmer in the woodchurch area this then remained and was used untill the ground was revamped in the 90s and is still called the cowshed stand today


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#191936 - 8th Jan 2008 1:26pm Re: Tranmere Rovers [Re: jonno40]
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Pretty sure the ground was rebuilt circa 1910-1915. The original club was founded in the 1880's, but the Prenton Park we know wasnt built until 1915ish....
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#191947 - 8th Jan 2008 2:26pm Re: Tranmere Rovers [Re: StuyMac]
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Interesting; the map I have showing the tram routes is dated 1926, but it may have been re-dated to show the tram routes in 1926; the original map could be older. As you can see on the attached extract from the map, it still shows the ground on the other site (Temple Rd. School). On the site of the present ground, just where Woodchurch Lane joins Prenton Rd. West, there's a building called (I think) Salem Cottage. Maybe that has some connection with the nuns. (You have to make allowances for the fact that the paper of the map has separated from the linen backing at the folds & that the marking of the tram route has obscured some lettering). Although I was born & brought up within 100 yards of the present ground, I was not keen on football; Where was the cowshed stand, was it on Prenton Rd. West?

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#192164 - 9th Jan 2008 11:48am Re: Tranmere Rovers [Re: chriskay]
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yes the cowshed was the stand that ran along the side of the prenton pk Pub.if you looked at it from the other side of the ground you could clearly see the shape of an old cowshed.
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#192166 - 9th Jan 2008 12:07pm Re: Tranmere Rovers [Re: jonno40]
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extract from the History of the borough birkenhead:
"the club was formed in 1881 under the presidency of alderman .J.H.Mcgaul.at first the club only played friendly games.but on removal from south road to prenton park in 1887 gates where taken for the first time and the club aqured support of about 1000 .in 1888 they joined the liverpool and district league and progressed well until 1900,when there was a split resulting in the formation of a seperate club by the players(poss cammel lairds ?)rovers however carried on and where eventually admitted to the english league in 1921 they played in division three north."
hope this of intrest and use .the book which is a pretty good read is available from the libary when i return it :>
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#192197 - 9th Jan 2008 4:16pm Re: Tranmere Rovers [Re: jonno40]
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Thanks for those inputs, jonno. I've been doing a bit more research today & from the Rovers' website I get some dates which are slightly different from the ones in your book. According to the Rovers' site (& a couple of other sources), the club was formed in 1884 as Belmont FC, by two cricket clubs, Belmont & Lyndhurst Wanderers. The ground shown on the map was their second ground, on Ravenshaw's Field, later called Prenton Park. The move to the current Prenton Park was in 1912. I can now date the map to between 1880, when the housing of Devonshire Park, on the East side of Borough Rd. was built & 1912, when the ground was moved to its present location. My original dating of the map to 1926 was obviously wrong; that must have been when the tram routes were marked in. As an aside, Temple Rd. Council School was built on the site of the old ground. After the 1939-45 war, it became a Secondary Modern Boys' School & in 1971 became Devonshire Park Combined School, a mixed Infants & Middle school. In 1983 it became Devonshire Park Primary School, which as far as I know, it still is.

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