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#184508 - 11th Nov 2007 10:40pm XD Card Error
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Okay i think my new Card Reader has basically Killed My XD Card
for my camera frown

Its a 2gb XD Type H Picture card for my camera.

New Card Reader.
I bought a new card reader so i could just throw my memorey card
in and not have to mess around with the fuji cable.

Anyway it wouldn't read the info from the card, well it
didn't even recognise the card existed, but it could see
the card reader.
It mentioned in the manual that some XD cards and MC cards
may have to be "Low Level Format" to enable the reader to
read the card.

When i ran the low level format software it could see
the card and seemed to be doing something to it.
Anyway after about 10 mins it said the card was done.

Now my card reader still can not read the card.
As its not seen. So i cant gleem any info from it.

I put it back in my camera, and it came up with card error?
So it says i should Format the card in the camera using the
menu in the camera, which i done, it goes for about 15 seconds
and then stops and says "Card Not Initialized" and the advice
is to Format the card hummm...

Its a vicious circle.
And i cant get out of it, but i'm also thinking that the XD card
is goosed, but it that possible?

Does anyone know of any other software or fixes.
Ive been on with it for most of the night but frustration
and disappointment has made me leave it for another day.

Ive e-mailed fuji to see if they have any software or
posible fixes.

Ive tried most stuff that i can think of but i'm stuck and
fear that i will have to buy a new card frown
Idea's anyone.
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#184511 - 11th Nov 2007 10:50pm Re: XD Card Error [Re: Mark]
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id just get a new card. Ive always found transferring off the Fuji fast enough anyway, its also better memory cards as you are not constantly "contacting scraping" them.

The memory card reader could have done anything to the card, damaged the contacts, surged some of the internals etc... It may even have been done in the camera!

Best to just buy a new card, unless you can claim from the memory card reader company, but it would be hard to prove the reader at fault and probably take months to claim anyway.

Ive had it happen to at least one MMC card recently, although that was more as a result of contact scraping rather then a reading device.

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#184516 - 11th Nov 2007 11:03pm Re: XD Card Error [Re: MattLFC]
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Yeh that's what i was thinking too.

There is recovery software out there, but there wasnt anything
on the card to be honest so it was worth asking about it first.

O well on the hunt for a new one now.
Bloody ebuyer Card reader for 4 has cost me 25 in a new
card frown

If anyone spots anything less that 23 with delivery post me a link.

2GB Fuji XD Type H Picture Card ( Not a "M" Card" )
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#184523 - 11th Nov 2007 11:38pm Re: XD Card Error [Re: Mark]
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#184543 - 12th Nov 2007 2:29am Re: XD Card Error [Re: Mark]
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Ive never ever Low Level formated anything.. Its a bad thing.. If anything says low level format ignore it and just do it as if you would a HD using Windows Format.. Ignore those card readers.. Low Level format is for iniating a Drive back to factory Default.. Its like a Program called wipe which is a DOS program which Writes 0's to the drive and completly destroys everything on it.. Why on earth low level format is on a Card reader any way is beyond me cause Low Level format was written into some Older BIOS'es to initiate HD.. Thats the first time ive heard that.... That card reader youve got mate must be shite id be careful with it..
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#184560 - 12th Nov 2007 10:11am Re: XD Card Error [Re: SoundLad]
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It was a Huge 4 lol
well i'm not laughing as im now out of pocket.

Yeh i even tried "wipe" as i found it and that came back
with and error lol...

So somehow its Hardware Knackered i say frown

New one is on its way.
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#184561 - 12th Nov 2007 10:14am Re: XD Card Error [Re: Mark]
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This is the little beauty frown

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/54461
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#185077 - 15th Nov 2007 9:32am Re: XD Card Error [Re: Mark]
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Amazing ?

The idiots sent me a Type "M" but i'm invoiced for a Type "H"

Grrrrr somad
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#185081 - 15th Nov 2007 10:41am Re: XD Card Error [Re: Mark]
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#185272 - 16th Nov 2007 7:49pm Re: XD Card Error [Re: MattLFC]
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Right send for another one.

These XD 2GB Type "H" are like rocking horse poo at the mo.
Well for a good price Less than 25

You can get 40 + All day long.
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#409033 - 19th May 2010 12:15pm Re: XD Card Error [Re: Mark]
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I have always said "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR" always buy the best you can afford.
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#409096 - 19th May 2010 5:47pm Re: XD Card Error [Re: Nigel]
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Afaik, only Olympus, Kodak, Lexar, SanDisk and Fujifilm make (and use) the XD card format - the "Type H" and "Type M" names are simply the specification (H is faster than M at writing), so there is no issue with "you get what you pay for" philosphy with XD cards.

The reason no cheapo manufacturers make them, is because they have such a small market, only being able to hold video and photo's and able to work in certain camera's from Fuji and Olympus, and have quite high costs associated with the licensing of the technology (also its obsolete now).

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#409237 - 19th May 2010 10:27pm Re: XD Card Error [Re: Mark]
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Strange, my SD card 4gb when inserted into windows 7 says the card needs formating due to an error, (its sandisk and basically new) i click "continue anyway" and it works with no fuss, always been only with windows 7, it works fine with xp, just thought i`d mention it.
Maybe it would work in another laptop/windows setup mark?
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#409244 - 19th May 2010 10:40pm Re: XD Card Error [Re: _Ste_]
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Ive had the same problem on Vista in the past (Vista = NT6.0, Windows 7 = NT6.1 - dont let the 7 malarky fool you), with both removable hard drives and memory cards, where they are no longer recognised correctly (or certain partitions are not) but they work just fine on XP.

I am not sure, but have found this is usually caused by (doesnt always happen) cancelling an auto-run contents scan or unplugging the device without following the correct USB/device removal procedure. This is only what I have found, not sure if im correct though, never had a problem since I avoided doing these things though.

As for why it happens in NT6 and not NT5, im not sure, but last year, had to format an external HDD because it got so annoying in the end, not being able to read it in Vista.

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#411004 - 24th May 2010 11:09am Re: XD Card Error [Re: MattLFC]
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Originally Posted By: MattLFC
Afaik, only Olympus, Kodak, Lexar, SanDisk and Fujifilm make (and use) the XD card format - the "Type H" and "Type M" names are simply the specification (H is faster than M at writing), so there is no issue with "you get what you pay for" philosphy with XD cards.

The reason no cheapo manufacturers make them, is because they have such a small market, only being able to hold video and photo's and able to work in certain camera's from Fuji and Olympus, and have quite high costs associated with the licensing of the technology (also its obsolete now).

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Good answer Matt, I will bear that in mind.
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