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#156848 - 28th May 2007 11:20pm BMW Launches Hydrogen Car - Not So Clean Though!
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Originally Posted By: BBC News
The world's first, mass-produced, hydrogen powered car which emits water instead of gases, is being launched by BMW.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_6690000/newsid_6697400/6697493.stm?bw=bb&mp=wm

Interesting. It seems it has a LONG way to go yet and many barriers to overcome. I dont think it will be viable within the next 15 years.

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#156864 - 28th May 2007 11:34pm Re: BMW Launches Hydrogen Car - Not So Clean Though! [Re: MattLFC]
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BMW is right to start planning ahead.

Buy as the guy from Freinds of the Earth on the vid says, at the moment, we need to focus on improving emissions from the current technology before it becomes viable to introduce hydrogen fuel.
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#156868 - 28th May 2007 11:39pm Re: BMW Launches Hydrogen Car - Not So Clean Though! [Re: BMW Joe]
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Its cant be done though Joe. You can only kill off emissions so far before you start to seriously comprimise power and cost.

Its like everything in life, you can only go so far, and then you will hit limits. Like CPU's can only reach around 3.8Ghz before transistor leakage is far too high to actually produce anymore power.

The catalytic convertors are already in place, we have removed the lead, fuel is generally a lot cleaner and more refined as are car engines, they are already squeezing every last metre out of fuel atm in modern cars, we cant go much further.

We have been running engines on petrol/diesel for the last 100 years, the last 30 of which we have been trying to clean them as much as we can. We have hit a brick wall now, the limits are close.

Its alright to say we should develop more and more eco-friendly conventional engines, but theres also the question on who is going to fund it? Why should the likes of BMW pay the billions to fund research into cleaner engines, that will hardly make any difference, and that they will never make back?

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#156872 - 28th May 2007 11:42pm Re: BMW Launches Hydrogen Car - Not So Clean Thoug [Re: MattLFC]
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Who do you propose should then if car manufacturers don't?
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#156874 - 28th May 2007 11:44pm Re: BMW Launches Hydrogen Car - Not So Clean Thoug [Re: BMW Joe]
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Governments? The EU Grrrs that keep pushing for cleaner cars? These organizations who pretend to be charities who are always moaning about emissions, yet are taking flights left right and centre to be at global warming conventions and the like!

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