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#152288 - 31st Mar 2007 9:16pm July 1st 2007 : Banned Public Smoking
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The UK smoking bans
Like it or not, smoking will be banned in all public indoor spaces in the UK by summer 2007. Different areas of the country will be affected at varying times - find out when the last fag butt will be stubbed out in a Pub ashtray near you.



The UK smoking ban follows similar decisions made in several parts of Europe the USA. If you're a smoker in protest over the British ban, count your lucky stars you don't live in the Himalayan kingdom of Bhutan, where the Sale and use of tobacco is completely outlawed.


Where will smoking be banned?

Smoking in all indoor public places will be banned. Many places - such as cinemas and public transport - have rarely permitted smoking in recent years, and so it will be places like pubs, restaurants, nightclubs and private members' clubs that feel the biggest impact of the ban.


Where will you be able to smoke?

You'll still be allowed to light up outdoors, in the home or places considered to be 'homes', such as prisons, care homes and hotels.

Smoking could still be banned at certain outdoor locations that are 'substantially enclosed', such as football grounds and railway platforms. No decision has yet been made on smoking inside cars carrying passengers.


What will happen if I'm caught fag-in-hand?

If you're caught smoking in a banned area you could be fined 50.


But who's really going to care if I light up a sneaky one?
Those in charge of the premises would be fools to let you get away with it, especially considering that they could face a 2,500 fine if they fail to stop you. They could also be charged on-the-spot fines of 200 if they fail to display no-smoking signs, with the penalty increasing to 1,000 if the issue goes to court.


When will the ban come into force?
This depends on the area of the UK:



England - July 1, 2007

The initial plans for a partial ban in England were binned because Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt felt it was impractical and wouldn't offer enough protection from passive smoking for workers in places such as bars and clubs.
Scotland - March 2006
It's hoped that the ban will have a very positive impact on the Scottish nation, since smoking here is attributable to a shocking one in four of all deaths.
Wales - April 2, 2007
The UK government allowed Wales to decide on its own smoking ban, despite the fact that the Welsh Assembly isn't normally given such wide-ranging powers. Wales was actually the first part of the UK to vote for a full smoking ban.
Northern Ireland - April 30, 2007
Three years after the Republic of Ireland's total ban, Northern Ireland is following suit. No-one has a right to subject colleagues and workmates to the dangers and hazards of second-hand smoke," says its Health Minister Shaun Woodward.

So What do you think Good thing or Not?

Smoking Ban
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Votes accepted starting: 31st Mar 2007 9:16pm
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#152489 - 3rd Apr 2007 7:05pm Re: July 1st 2007 : Banned Public Smoking [Re: Mark]
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Its a good thing cos I dont smoke, and dont see why other people should be allowed to give people like me cancer through passive smoking.

If they (smokers) wanna kill themselves, they go for it, but they shouldnt take innocent bystanders down with them!

mad

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#152493 - 3rd Apr 2007 7:29pm Re: July 1st 2007 : Banned Public Smoking [Re: MattLFC]
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Originally Posted By: MattyC
Its a good thing cos I dont smoke, and dont see why other people should be allowed to give people like me cancer through passive smoking.

If they (smokers) wanna kill themselves, they go for it, but they shouldnt take innocent bystanders down with them!

mad


I think all non-smokers feel this way.

I think the ban will be great - but who will really follow it?? for example workplaces. The debate we have in our workplace is mainly the vans - do smokers get to smoke in the vans when the rest of us are non smokers - especially on 5 hour journeys to Scotland.

I'm around that many smokers constantly, that sometimes I think it would be easier for me to take up smoking than for other people to quit lol
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#152501 - 3rd Apr 2007 9:31pm Re: July 1st 2007 : Banned Public Smoking [Re: BMW Joe]
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i cant wait 4 it i hate smokeig it stinks an is horribe
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#160976 - 30th Jun 2007 1:16am Re: July 1st 2007 : Banned Public Smoking [Re: krisGTi]
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Well, we are now into the final day of legal smoking in public places.

Anyone who smokes, I am sure you will be making the most of it, some smokers are sorry to see it go, others dont mind, some are using it as the perfect excuse to quit.

It will be interesting to see how well enforced this new law is. But I have a feeling there is that much publicity over it, not many smokers will try to ignore it and simply respect the law.

smile

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#160979 - 30th Jun 2007 1:25am Re: July 1st 2007 : Banned Public Smoking [Re: MattLFC]
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There is already a appeal about this in the human rights
not about the health issues but human rights.

I didn't have time to read it all,
but there is one being put forward.

Will fail.

landlords are uneasy about policing this too.
say 4 drunken men, would you say leave or put it out?

I think its change for the best in the long term.
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#161003 - 30th Jun 2007 5:14pm Re: July 1st 2007 : Banned Public Smoking [Re: Mark]
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Did you manage to see the Tonight program last night Mark?

They expected riots in Scotland and there wasnt any lol, it was quite interesting. There has been pubs go out of business as what they call "a direct result" of the ban, but we never actually know the Pub owners wernt to blame.

smile

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#161059 - 1st Jul 2007 12:27am Re: July 1st 2007 : Banned Public Smoking [Re: MattLFC]
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Hehe smoking is now banned!

What happens in the case of bars etc with a late license until 2am??

Are smokers allowed to continue until the close of business or are they now under the rules of the new laws??

smile

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#161060 - 1st Jul 2007 12:29am Re: July 1st 2007 : Banned Public Smoking [Re: MattLFC]
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the somking ban dont come in till 6 in morning mate
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#161090 - 1st Jul 2007 7:15pm Re: July 1st 2007 : Banned Public Smoking [Re: fordsteve]
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Seen the first batch of smokers outside the pubs today.

Pint in one hand and a ciggy in the other.
And pissing down.

I got thinking about this....
Surely there just going to dive into the toilets
just like we done at school. Closing the bog door
so they cant see you lol?
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#161105 - 1st Jul 2007 9:29pm Re: July 1st 2007 : Banned Public Smoking [Re: Mark]
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hopefully this will help me quit which is what i really want to do so fingers crossed
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#161173 - 2nd Jul 2007 10:58pm Re: July 1st 2007 : Banned Public Smoking [Re: fordsteve]
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More outside smokers spotted today.

I have to say they didn't look too happy.
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